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The reference to the supreme court in this article (second paragraph) is confusing. Could someone please clarify? --Doric Loon 22:16, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

There seems to be an explanation on the Chancery page, but I'm not familiar enough with British law to be bold. siafu 22:19, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
I have added a link from Supreme to the Courts of England and Wales. Hopefully this clarify the situation a little more. Davidkinnen 15:07, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Request for Expansion

Could people add information about Solicitors in other jurisdictions - such as Northern Ireland and expand on the Scottish information. Davidkinnen 15:07, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

 I have done a quick edit for Republic of Ireland. DanielGoldsmith

Is it really true that solicitors in NSW and Queensland have limited rights of audience?Fat Red 08:36, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

I have deleted the section "Personal Injuries" which was of limited or no relevance to the rest of the article.Fat Red 08:36, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Canada

Is the term "solicitor" used in Canada, and is there a division between solicitors and barristers? Walton monarchist89 11:11, 8 March 2006 (UTC)#

No there isnt, this should be changed

[edit] History of Solicitor-Barrister split

Does anyone know the history of how this legal divide between solicitor and barrister came about, as it would seem to me that the more natural thing is to have one legal expert dealing with all legal issues, as I thought was the case in more ancient times? My father is a solicitor in Ireland and does not know of any time when this was the case in England (Ireland having just based their legal system on the English one).

I wonder whether there ever was a unified legal profession. Remember that all the professions (including teaching, public administration, medicine and the law) were practiced by clerics, after the early church closed down secular education. The clergy, after all, form the paradigm of a hierachical system. Perhaps there was a period when only notaries (licenced by the Pope, rather than the Archbishop of Canterbury) practiced law in England, but they seem not to have appeared in court. Before the Victorian unification of the junior branch, attorneys covered common law and were distinct from the solicitors involved with the equity courts and the procurators (proctors) of the ecclesiastical and admiralty courts. The barristers were instructed by the attorneys and solicitors, whereas the advocates of Doctors' Commons were instructed by the proctors until both these latter groups lost their monopoly. There were also "special pleaders" who limited their activities more narrowly. Above the barristers were the serjeants at law, who became extinct after the "Order of the Coif" ceased to be a necessary stepping stone to the bench. Above these were the King's or Queen's Serjeants, a much smaller class than that of King's or Queen's Counsel. As there was a multiplicity of ecclesiastical courts, from centuries before the secular courts had become differentiated to the extent of Victorian times, it is likely that the lawyers of England have been more or less specialised from an early period.NRPanikker 23:42, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Etymology

What is the origin of the word? What exactly to solicitors solicit? Please enlighten.--Ekilfeather 18:26, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Soliciting for prostitution

I have just noticed that on 27 November 2006 a user 80.41.188.0 deleted the comments I had made in the article earlier about other uses of the term 'solicit' in the UK, i.e. the criminal offence of "soliciting for prostitution". There is not indication of why this was removed, so I am replacing it. Emeraude 14:32, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Are you refering to the picture of the roadsign saying "No Soliciting"? I was just about to comment on that, does anybody know which jurisdiction this sign is from? It is humourous but probably irrelevent here ...Unless Streets and Highways Code section, 225.5 prohibits soliciting for the purposes of unnessesary peronal injury claims tehe. (Also from UK here). Bamkin 18:24, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
No, I wasn't. If you click on the picture you will see that it comes from the USA. I'm not sure it's relevant in this article. Emeraude 09:57, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, I took that picture and I added it here because I thought it was relevant to show that soliciting (in the sense of soliciting money for commercial goods or services) is generally disfavored in the United States. But in retrospect I agree that it is a bit of a tangent and the other picture already illustrates the U.S. definition well enough. So essentially I'm indifferent if you want to keep it or get rid of it in this article (since it's also displayed in the Rest area article, which I originally took it for).--Coolcaesar 05:23, 30 May 2007 (UTC)