Talk:Software license
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[edit] Software Licensing should not be merged with Software License
The act of licensing software is a separate topic from the sofware license itself.
Although they are obviously interrelated, they still remain two separate things.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jigordon (talk • contribs)
- I disagree. One article can manage that issue as this separation only serves to confuse the reader. Separate article Site license should be merged also. — Moondyne 09:00, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- I support the merge, but the article should be titled Software licensing, not Software license. I'll change the tags to undirected merges. ~ Keiji (iNVERTED) (Talk | Contribs) 20:05, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] only applies in the u.s.
eulas are not considered valid contracts in most parts of the world outside the u.s.. at least in europe the eula can not restrict the rights you already acquired as you bought the product. I arrived at this article from a search on "site license". It contained precisely what I needed and was ALL I needed. If merging it would make it any more difficult to find this precise info by search, I'd suggest against it.
[edit] is software tangible for tax purposes?
[edit] LicensingHandbook reference
I would rather have the discussion regarding the link to the external blog happen here instead of via an editing war. While it is true that the blog IS a promotional tool for the Software Licensing Handbook, the blog also covers software licensing issues on a weekly basis apart from the book.
To say that the blog is ONLY an advertisement for the book is misleading and incorrect. With so few real resources available to people looking to learn about how to work through the licensing process, I would also think that any additional information would be helpful.
Not to mention the fact that there are blatantly self-promotional links (and articles) all throughout Wikipedia... so a link to an outside blog that covers the topics within Wikipedia shouldn't be problematic. Jigordon 02:40, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- The external link to licensinghandbook.com fails to meet the guidelines for external links as set forth in WP:ELNO. In particular, it without question fails criteria 4, 5, and 11, and arguably fails criteria 1 and 2 as well. Furthermore, the link strongly appears to be in violation of WP:COI as well. Given the strong evidence to suggest that the link is inappropriate, I am removing it. If you disagree with this decision, please reply here stating the reasons why it should be exempted from the above policies (or why it meets the appropriate criteria) before adding it back. Thanks. Moulding (talk) 21:00, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for having the conversation here.
WP:ELNO begins by stating "Except for a link to a page that is the subject of the article...". As such, none of the criteria would be used to judge the link, as the stated topic of the site is software licensing, which is the subject of the article.
With respects to WP:COI, it could be argued that creating a link to my own site would represent a conflict. However, the COI actually discusses Citing Oneself specifically: "Editing in an area in which you have professional or academic expertise is not, in itself, a conflict of interest. Using material you yourself have written or published is allowed within reason, but only if it is notable and conforms to the content policies."
A single link to the site which discusses this topic (and is an area in which I have both professional and academic experience) is, by that definition, not a conflict of interest. Especially since we're talking about a single link at the bottom of the page in the section entitled "External Links."
Not that two wrongs make a right... but the Dan Bricklin link would also fail if held to your standards.
I will not add it back without input from "the community" so long as the community is comprised of people with more than a few days as a contributor. Jigordon 22:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Jeff. Neither you, your blog, or your "companion" handbook are the subject of this article. Thus it is incorrect to cite the quote above about "a page that is the subject of the article" as justification for the link. It happens that your blog covers, among other things, the same topic that this Wikipedia article covers. However, despite any academic value your blog may possess, it's purpose for existence appears to be to promote your products or services. Thus, it is simply a commercial site whose owner is attempting to append to a Wiki article using a common theme. Nevertheless, despite others' objections here, you've done well for yourself by creating this discussion and thereby entering a permanent record here for your work. Jazzdanse (talk) 03:52, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
- Jazzdanse's interpretation of the guideline "Except for a link to a page that is the subject of the article or an official page of the article subject" is correct. This article is not about licensinghandbook.com. Therefore the link is not to a page which is the subject of the article. The article is also not about Jeffrey Gordon, so the link is not to an official page of the article subject, either. So the criteria set forth in WP:ELNO do apply.
- As for WP:COI, "Editing in an area in which you have professional or academic expertise is not, in itself, a conflict of interest" means that you are not prohibited from editing the Software License article simply because you are expert in that area. After all, such a rule would be silly and would be self-defeating for Wikipedia. However, this does not give an editor license to add any material he or she wishes to add simply because the editor is an expert on the topic at hand, nor does it erase all instances of conflict of interest. The COI policy unequivocally states, "Adding material that appears to promote the interests or visibility of an article's author, its author's family members, employer, associates, or their business or personal interests, places the author in a conflict of interest." (emphasis added).
- Note that none of this is an attack on the quality or informational value of the licensinghandbook.com website. It's just that the rules of Wikipedia, I think, quite clearly disallow this link in this particular instance. Moulding (talk) 13:58, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
