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[edit] Other tunes with slap bass
There are better examples by the chilis! ... Storm in a teacup, and, Tell me baby ... These two songs have VERY prominent slap bass technique! 86.3.232.18 18:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Examples
I took the liberty to delete the entry about Mudvayne, not because i think Mudvayne is not a good example of slapping but because i don't think the article will benefit from the whole internet submitting their favorite slapping bassplayer to this article. In the end the same thing will happen as happened with the 'influential bassists' list of the 'bass guitar' article, it will get too long and it will have to be removed from the article. (people think: 'hey, if mudvayne is mentioned here, then at least Robert Trujillo should be mentioned here as well' etc?)I think it makes sense to have some examples in this article, but having too many of them would go beyond its purpose. --Vunzmstr 10:38, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
I removed Is it Luck by Primus as an example of a song with slapping in it. I love this tune, and i was never able to figure out how it was played until i found out that Les Claypool plays it slapping with a tremolo bar in his right hand. Since there are only very few basses with tremolo bars i would say it is not a very good example. If there should be an example of a Primus tune with slapping in it better ones would be 'spegetti western' or 'shake hands with beef'. But although i am a big Primus fan, i think you get the idea about what slapping is if you listen to one of the examples that are already there. --Vunzmstr 09:47, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
And of course there is the question of how many examples you need in a piece? (if you need any at all) I'd say there are enough already. Other songs added as examples actually seem to be people paying tributes to their favorite bands. (And for some reason these are always white funkrock bands) I have been wondering why people do this. Maybe people think that if the bassplayer of their favourite band is not listed here he is not counted as good enough or something. And this troubles people because then it may seem like their favorite band is not so cool as they think it is(?). Come on people, music is not a competition. --Vunzmstr 09:47, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
Bernard Edwards uses popping for some of the Fill-ins in the bassline to "We Are Family"
--- I just deleted what appeared to be a plug for a product called the slapring. Please help keep vanity crap out of wikipedia.
[edit] History
User 64.6.41.190 added on 24 July the story about Larry Graham inventing the slap and pop technique because he could not afford a drum kit. I have heard of this story but i heard many other stories as well. Does anybody know a reliable source for this story? --Vunzmstr 10:02, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Larry Graham gave an extensive interview in a recent issue of Bass Player Magazine. It's the May 2007 issue. The story you mention above is not supported by the interview. I'm new to Wikipedia, so I'm not sure if I should quote the article text or not. I do have a copy, so let me know the best way to share the info.
Basically, the story is that yes he invented the technique out of necessity, but not because he couldn't afford a drum set, but rather to make up for the absence of a drummer in the group he was playing in at the time with his Mom. It's a great interview, and anyone interested in Larry Graham should read it. Bbm 04:04, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
How can someone "invent" a technique that had been in use since the 1920s? Yes, earlier bass players played stand up bass, but the technique is almost identical. Note too that Bill Black was playing "slap bass" in the early 1950s. I note that Larry was born in 1946. Bill Black started playing an electric bass sometime after Elvis was drafted in 1958, when Larry was 10.
- Short quotes from other scoures are allowed, I would say especially if they themselves are quoting someone. Longer passages are frowned upon, although you could put them in your own words. Steve Pastor (talk) 19:23, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Jason Salem?
I deleted the reference to one Jason Salem and his slap and pop balloons. It is unclear who this guy is and why he should be mentioned in this article. It's also unclear what slap and pop balloons are. --Vunzmstr 10:59, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
- I have re-removed this reference, as it appears to be nonsense. Google shows nothing for "Slap and pop balloon". Also, one of the users who has been adding the reference, User:169.157.198.146, vandalised Vunzmstr's notice above, which suggest to me that they are not a legit editor. -- AJR | Talk 14:00, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
- I have never heard of this Jason Salem fellow, but slap and pop balloons sounded familiar so I asked a few friends about them. One of them, who is very into nu metal/funk, told me a bit about them. He said they’re a fairly new innovation, and he’s only heard them once. I used some of his information to create a stub on them. Hopefully someone else who knows more will add to it soon. I’ve therefore added the reference to the stub, but I have left out the reference to Jason Salem for now, as my friend had never heard of him either. -- Justin- 5:50, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] something fishy's going on
it seems that another user created an article on the same subject @ Slap bass (originally titled "Slap back"). are these distinct subjects, or two articles on the same thing? i'm leaning toward the latter and a redirect is in order, but i want to confirm this with you guys. Joeyramoney 06:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
- From the Recording Techniques Section of the Rockabilly article.
"Slapback, slapback echo, flutter echo, tape delay echo, echo, and reverb are some of the terms used to describe one particular aspect of rockabilly recordings." More obviously, that means reverb of some kind. Steve Pastor (talk) 22:18, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Murderface?
That's a fictional character. What's he doing in the list of "prominent bassists using slapping"? — Gwalla | Talk 04:08, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Extended technique?
I know it seems kind of insignificant, but I thought I'd run this by some fellow editors before I added it: I was wondering if slapping is considered an extended technique for bass seeing as how it is an unexpected or unorthodox method of playing. I was going to change the opening sentence to mention this as well as linking it to the related article. --Thaddius (talk) 14:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
