Talk:Sing the Sorrow

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[edit] Genre - Goth Rock?

My genre knowledge is pretty limited, but I seriously doubt this album is considered Gothic Rock...? I'm going to change it back in a couple days unless anyone tells me why it is Gothic Rock. TheMaster42 09:23, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

It's not. It is more goth orinated then their previous albums, but not gothic rock. Dwnsjane2 19:09, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
  • More post-punk than goth rock.
This album is actually about as gothic ast heir previous releases - just in different ways. The imagery is less horror-based, moving in the directions the Days of the Phoenix layed out, though the sound is laying into some goth stuff. However, I still wouldn't call STS "goth rock". Punk Rock, really. - Enzo Dragon 18:32, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

It's not goth rock, it's not post-punk.Just alternative rock/ punk rock.Their previous albums have been described as Gothic PUNK but this album it's not even dark and gloomy. Xr 1 16:49, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Im going to add Hardcore Punk to the genre list of Alternative Rock and Punk Rock. This because of the three songs The Leaving Song, Pt. II, Dancing Through Sunday and Death of Seasons fit into this genre.

[edit] Theory

Sing the Sorrow is a concept album about a man who dies and is destined never to reincarnate because he possesses the Chinese astrological sign of the Rabbit. (The Rabbit makes an appearance in the music video for "Girl's Not Grey")

No, that's just one theory about it. Nothing has been proven.

According to wikipedia policy, aren't compilation and live albums supposed to be overlooking for the purposes of the "next" and "previous" albums in the chronology? In that case, the next album should be 2006's Decemberunderground rather than 2004's AFI.

[edit] 100 Words

It has been confirmed by Gavin, moderator of the AFI message board, that 100 Words is in fact a separate song that was recorded during the STS sessions, NOT another name for Miseria Cantare. I'm not sure how to cite that information. Hotdoglives 13:14, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Split ...but home is nowhere...into a seperate article

I don't know how to tag it as such. But I have arguments

  • Most of the bonus track section is dominated by information on that one song. Buy having 'but home is nowhere' split, we could provide more information on other songs without making the article too large
  • ...but home is nowhere Redircets here. This indicates the large number of people who search the words 'but home is nowhere' expecting to see an article on that song
  • 2 other songs on the album [Girls' Not Grey and another] are in a seperate article, but don't have the complexity or length as ...but home is nowhere.
  • In a seperate article we could add even more information then the 2 [run on] paragraphs that are in this article. Despite the fact it isn't a single. Several songs that were only in albums have their own articles Letterbomb is a good example.


FinalWish 04:15, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

The songs with their own articles are that way because they're singles, and thus by Wikipedia standards deserve their own article. ...but home is nowhere doesn't, because, as you said, most of it is about the bonus tracks after it, which aren't part of the song itself. The lyrics are even in the CD booklet, listed as seperate songs. 84.25.225.228 18:21, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

However, I've cited examples of Green Day songs that aren't singles that have their own articles. There are Panic! At the Disco and Fall Out Boy songs with the same thing. FinalWish 23:25, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Well, it woudl depnd on how many facts about the meaning of the song and what makes it particular. For example, all song in Stadium Arcadium already ahve an article. but it needs to be a good enough article to stay (possible meanings of the song,musical particularities, and comment about it by the artists are the elements often considered).

[edit] Cleaned up

I have removed everything from this article that was largely speculative. This is an encyclopedia, not a forum, so information should be more concrete then someone's "maybe, could be". - 70.16.200.84 03:29, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merged Clandestine with Sing the Sorrow

The Clandestine page didn't really have anything except for speculative interpretation on it, so I merged it with Sing the Sorrow, keeping only information of encyclopedic value. --Hotdoglives 02:23, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Miseria Cantare translation

As far as I know, 'miseria cantare' does not translate to 'we sing misery', as 'cantare' is the infinitive of the verb. Therefore, it can't be translated any other way than just 'sing' (or perhaps 'to sing', but that's being pedantic.) 84.25.225.228 18:24, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

If translated to Spanish and if you add an accent on the last E of "Cantare" that makes it future tense, hence translating it to "Misery I will sing."

  • Who knows? I mean, they have used Spanish in anopther song (Love Lik Winter), but I think Latin is more probable for "epicness" or "mysterousness" puposes.

[edit] Production

I added production details, because that's kind of a big deal. 24.24.237.250 00:26, 11 February 2007 (UTC)