Talk:Silvia Lancome
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I am working on it right now. she has acted in more than 50 porn movies. You can search her name and more than 134,000 results would come, which makes her way notable enough in my opinion. --Kaaveh 20:43, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- Please read WP:PORNBIO to understand the criteria required for porn actor entries. WebHamster 21:26, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
I placed a tag to delete the article, doesn't meet the required criteria for porn stars per WP:PORNBIO. Her rewards are not included in the listed ones
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- This passes this criterion of WP:PORNBIO: "Has won or been a serious nominee for a well-known award, such as those listed in Category:Adult movie awards". Phil Bridger (talk) 22:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] different spellings of last name are not Alias names
Different spellings of her last name Lancome should not be listed as alias names.
- I create redirect for other spelling. FCBarsalona (talk) 22:45, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
You believe she is afghan just because she decided to call her self 'miss afghanistan'? She is very sexy whatever her background is--McTools (talk) 19:22, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- According to moviefilmfest.com she has an Afghan background. That explains why she called herself Miss Afghanistan.
The name of characters or roles that she plays in movies are also not appropriate aliases. Someone who thinks "L'amica di Celi" and "Morena en el gimnasio" are performing aliases is ignorant in reading Spanish and Italian. Vinh1313 (talk) 20:33, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] She started as "Miss Afghanistan" then changed to "Silvia Lancome"
She first appeared as Miss Afghanistan in several films and later she changed to Silvia Lancome (Lancôme is a Spanish perfume company).
- Lancome is not her real last names. She changed that last name when she moved to Spain and began her porn career. She is not Spanish but she often plays role of Spanish woman. She looks very Spanish. I see some Afghans in Barsalona and they look like Spanish.
- From of all the different people in this world she looks an afghan to you?--mCtOOls 22:07, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
- She didn't appear as miss afghanistan in her first film, she appeared as silvia lancome in her first film (Real Fantasy released in 2001) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1057981/ Can somebody show information to a film that was made before real fantasy? I believe she made the alias miss afghanistan in late 2001 or early 2002 at a time when the US has just invaded afghanistan. The miss afghanistan name was only used in Initiations 4 which was released on April 15, 2002. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0316499/ --mCtOOls 18:33, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
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- I thought Rocco's Initiations was her first movie. I was wrong. Ok. She first changed to Silvia Lancome then Miss Afghanistan then back to Silvia Lancome. FCBarsalona (talk) 23:23, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
- Another point, where does it mention that she was born in Martin, Slovakia?--mCtOOls 18:40, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
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- According to this source she was born in Martin. FCBarsalona (talk) 23:21, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
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- It doesn't mention martin anywhere.--mCtOOls 12:08, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
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- I don't see it there either. Though this source says Martin, Slovakia in its info-box.
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Just a reminder that WP:BLP requires any controversial information to be cited to reliable secondary source. Controversial information includes disputed information that apparently is the subject of edit wars. Searchextreme, eurobabeindex, iafd, imdb etc are not considered reliable sources for biographies since they do not have reputations for fact checking as required by WP:V. Vinh1313 (talk) 18:52, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ok thanks for the tips. However, her hometown has not been the subject of any edit wars.
- There has been so many reversions back and forth by different accounts that it's not clear what the disputed content exactly is. Vinh1313 (talk) 19:03, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- There is no disputed content currently, User:DWC LR is just breaking some rules (WP:Vandalism, WP:Good faith) by removing her partial filmography and magazine appearances (which cannot be disputed).
- There has been so many reversions back and forth by different accounts that it's not clear what the disputed content exactly is. Vinh1313 (talk) 19:03, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
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- No, IMDB can not be used to verify her "birth name". The biography sections of IMDB is not considered a reliable source to verify facts about living people because they get their information from user contributions just like wikipedia. Read WP:BLP again, especially about the part about the presumption of privacy and the need to verify controversial information to a reliable source. If you see a real name that is not properly sourced, you must remove it immediately. About her race, I remember Rocco Siffredi mentioning once that Silvia was half-afghan through her mother but that is personal knowledge for me so that can not be included in the article. Vinh1313 (talk) 02:22, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- and the Wicked website confirms her Slovakian/Afghan heritage. Vinh1313 (talk) 02:29, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- No, IMDB can not be used to verify her "birth name". The biography sections of IMDB is not considered a reliable source to verify facts about living people because they get their information from user contributions just like wikipedia. Read WP:BLP again, especially about the part about the presumption of privacy and the need to verify controversial information to a reliable source. If you see a real name that is not properly sourced, you must remove it immediately. About her race, I remember Rocco Siffredi mentioning once that Silvia was half-afghan through her mother but that is personal knowledge for me so that can not be included in the article. Vinh1313 (talk) 02:22, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
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- ACtually, I've met both Rocco and Ron Jeremy a couple of times at conventions. Look at my user page, you may realise that I photograph and report on the adult industry. Rocco's worked with Silvia and I actually specifically asked him about her at the 2003 AVN Expo. I'm actually neutral about Silvia's ethnicity; I'm just reporting to you personal knowledge. Why are you adamant to the idea that she may be part Afghan? Oh and I definitely trust Wicked (since they shot her) more than IMDB. Vinh1313 (talk) 18:03, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
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- What part of "Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons — whether the material is negative, positive, or just questionable — should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion, from Wikipedia articles, talk pages, user pages, and project space." from WP:BLP don't you understand?! I've already told you over and over that this information is contentious, and IMDB is not adequate. IMDB biographies are not considered reliable sources by the wikiproject pornography and reliable source examples. Do a search on the RS noticeboard to confirm. Vinh1313 (talk) 18:03, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
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Since you have a source for it, you can add this bit of information about her ethnicity. KyleSmithX (talk) 07:18, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
- There is also a source listed above confirming her Afghan background, so you can add but just cite it. Did Rocco tell you this in person or did he say this in an interview that we can cite? KyleSmithX (talk) 07:21, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
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- Funny. "her ethnic background given in all sources is white or caucasion" and then you mention "The source or sources that mentions her being from partial afghan heritage is unreliable, it may be false information submitted to that site by you." Talk about being selective. Okay, here's a better joke. Vinh1313 (talk) 19:37, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
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- Ahem. As Vinh1313 points out, IMDB's bio page is not a reliable source and cannot be used to validate adding her name to the article. As well I would kindly ask that you please do not mention her alleged "real" name anymore without providing a reliable source for it. Tabercil (talk) 19:16, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
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