Talk:Silver dapple gene

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[edit] Clarifying the Silver vs. Sooty palomino section

This passage contains spelling and grammatical errors and is not particularly relevant to the discussion of "silver mimics". This section is not about genotype, but rather describes phenotypes that can be mistaken for silver.

Therefore, I find the explanation of the palomino genotype contains extra, confusing information. Instead of focusing on the diluted quality of the palomino color (which is typoed anyhow), the sentence should show that since silvers are black or bay and never chestnut and palomino is by definition chestnut, the tones of any black-based or chestnut-based coat will reflect these chemical differences.

I propose that the sentence read "However, a true palomino, with a red-based coat, will exhibit yellow or gold tones; a silver horse, in contrast, is by definition black-based and exhibits gray, black or brown undertones."

The subsequent sentence describes the action of champagne or dun genes. It is possible to mistake chestnut-based champagnes with palominos, however the range of phenotypes does not include shades that would be easily confused with silvers. It is also possible to mistake bay duns for buckskins, which, again would not be confused with silvers. This sentence and subject matter should be left out. It is unnecessary information which will serve only to confuse all but the most educated readers.

The next sentence is a modification of a sentence which uses eye color as a way to distinguish between silver bay and sooty palomino. It has been removed from context and therefore seems to be a free-standing description of the qualities of creme dilutes. I suggest that it follow the 2nd sentence of the passage and that it state: "While a sooty palomino, like many creme dilutes, may have brown eyes a shade lighter than average, this is not true of silver dapples."

The next sentence has typos and is not relevant to the discussion. If there is no connection to silver dapple, why include it? Silver dapples do not have gold coat tones. They are not born with blue eyes that change to green, gold, or light brown, so one would be hard-pressed to confuse silver dapple with champagne. The article is not about the differences in equine eye color.

The 3rd to last sentence is a modified version of a statement that explained that palominos such as this mare [1] (she is indeed a palomino) with silver in their manes and tails are not silver. Such horses are palominos, so the qualifier "appear" is unnecessary. The 2nd to last sentence is untrue. Silver dapples do have silver streaks in their manes, but one should not assume that silver streaks mean silver dapple.

I am modifying this passage to:

• "Sooty" palomino: Dark palominos may be hard to distinguish from silver dapples, particularly if the mane or tail of a palomino contain streaks of silver. A true palomino, with a red-based coat, will exhibit yellow or gold tones; a silver horse, in contrast, is by definition black-based and exhibits gray, black or brown undertones. A sooty palomino, like other creme dilutes, may have brown eyes a shade lighter than average,^[1] this is not true of silver dapples.

Countercanter (talk) 18:35, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I like your changes, that works. I think it explains the differences. Nice! Montanabw^(talk) 04:01, 6 April 2008 (UTC)