Talk:Silva Method
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This page was placed on Votes for Deletion on June 21 2004. Consensus was to keep; see discussion at /Delete.
- After reading the article and the votes on the deletion page, it's obvious to me that the real problem is that this article is POV. But no one ever said so, and its critics were too lazy to re-write it with all the prerequisite supposeds and allegedlys and so on.
- And I'm glad it's not, frankly. Such a rewrite would make the prose much clumsier without adding new information. I'm happy to read about this subect on its own terms. It gives me a good feel for the flavor of this school of thought.
- Do Wikipedia readers really need to be protected from opinions by obfuscatory and qualifying language? Doesn't the fact that anyone with an interest can write an article make it obvious that people with strong opinions will be the first to start one? Perhaps those that can't read critically should go back to watching television.
- Clarknova 16:39, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Non-paranormal part of method
I took the Silva Method introductory class/sessions several years ago (about 1995 when i was 14-15). A large portion of the class wasn't actually about remote viewing, or ESP. Basically a lot of it was sort of concerning meditation, with the more paranormal elements intertwined within, supposedly accessible from the "higher" meditative state(s). I'll admit a lot of it was weird and nonsensical (my instructor claimed he could bend a spoon with his mind or shoot invisible balls of energy across the room). I'll attempt to add about the relatively unique meditative methods it advocates. I'm not going to defend the class, because I don't really buy any of it outside the meditation parts, but I'll try to remain neutral. I have a course book lying around somewhere I'll consult for references. if I do waver from NPOV someone please correct me. Zoffoperskof 06:04, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Claims: proven or unproven
The article states, "Claims of psychic abilities, remote viewing and healing have not been empirically proven."
I think there is research "empirically proving" such "claims." I'll look for references.
The Institute of Noetic Sciences is a start... http://www.noetic.org/
--sparkit 05:12, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] It is Called The Silva Method
The title, "Silva Mind Control," was originated by José Silva in the 1960s at the onset of his world-famous self-empowerment system. The name was changed years ago to "The Silva Method," in order to more accurately describe the program.
The article posted in Wikipedia is not supported by Silva International Headquarters in Laredo, Texas. The external link, listed as the "official website," is not the official site at all. The correct URL for the Silva Method Headquarters is [The Silva Method http://SilvaMethod.com].
The people who posted the Silva article are not affiliated with José Silva's Silva Method. It is unfortunate that they represent themselves as the home of the Silva Method, and fail to give credit where it is due.
Any comments may be directed to george@SilvaMethod.com
[edit] Reference to Alpha Brainwave State
The Alpha brainwave state can be achieve easily through entrainment, it is characteristic of "mind methods" to attemp crude forms of visualisations to achieve 'subjective' results.
Writers to this page should focus on reporting objectively the method and changes to the Silva Method over the years, perhaps a chronology is in order to illustrate how the Silva Method has changed over the years. Perhaps the Silva Method could invigorated with an entrainment device? Carl --210.10.180.20 02:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] move request
I made a typo moving this and can't fix it myself. Admin needed, I think. Also Silva Method redirect needs to be reversed. Thanks!
--sparkit 11:57, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Quite Dissappointed...
My opinion may be biased because I use the the Silva Mind Control Method, but this article is an outrage. It may also be that todays silva method is much different than the 1970's version. I suggest a new section on the page about the original intentions of the Silva Method or a whole new page titled "The Silva Mind Control Method" (The new page seems unneccesary but I assure you that the original silva method was not a "self-empowerment system to shape beliefs, augment personal success and allegedly view distant objects or locations and connect with a higher intelligence for guidance")
So, please write about original silva method, because I do not know nothing about 1970's version. Maybe author of this article also does not have any knowledge about original silva method? 62.21.67.47 12:54, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] These techniques really work
I teach and have had results with Dynamic Meditation, Stress control, Memory & Concentration improvement, finding a most satisfying job without much effort, remote viewing/seeing places far away (sitting wherever you are - with eyes closed), Telepathy (mind reading/sending messages), stopping smoking, losing/gaining weight, improving confidence, regressing to a past life (especially to solve problems that one has in this life related to a past life), finding lost objects, getting answers for the unsolvable, getting whatever through guided visualization (a car, a house, money etc.), E.S.P. (Clairvoyance, Sixth sense, Intuition etc.) and so on. I can prove this anytime, anywhere. Visit www.1a.gq.nu/custom2.html for more information. Dr.Ramanand 23:40, 24 March 2007 (UTC)Dr.Ramanand
[edit] "how do they do it?"
would it be against any wikipedia rules or somthign to either have in the article an explanation of what exactly is involved in applying the silva method, or at least linking to sites which offer instruction on the silva method for free? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TiagoTiago (talk • contribs) 00:46, 18 April 2007 (UTC). coolies, I forgot to sign and it signed automatically :D
- More explanation is OK. But with external links you have to be careful; see Wikipedia:Spam. Several external articles have been posted by websites trying to sell their products or services related to the Silva Method (which have been deleted). That's against Wikipedia policy. Ward3001 02:39, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Question
This article does not appear to contain any cited references declaring it to be LGAT in nature. The LGAT category does not seem to apply here. Lsi john 23:46, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Lack of Notability?
Can someone explain why this subject seems to lack notability? When I lived in Lexington, NC, there was a Silva office on West Center Street. Since moving from there, I've listened to audio media about the Silva Method, and I've read lots of criticisms online of the Silva Method, mostly by Christian groups.
I've also wondered if the Silva Method was somehow connected with the occult. I mean, how would you know that a screwdriver was accidentally dropped into a wall and left there during construction if some sort of entity or medium didn't reveal this knowledge? Supposedly, Jose Silva hypnotized his kids in an attempt to get them to learn better. Religious critics, particularly Fundamentalist Christians, tend to suggest that hypnosis opens up a person to to occult.
So I think this is a subject of notability and wide interest.--65.190.103.147 00:23, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
I got to know the method in Bogotá, Colombia and I would dare to say that it is notable enough to remain in the wiki. Certainly there hasn't been many references to it but the movement is sufficiently big to remain IMHO. Although I went through the whole thing I cannot tell if their claims are valid or just the effect of suggestion. In any case I believe that it is important to have the article for reference and try to add some criticism. --Nicorojas 16:08, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
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- Religious groups likely criticize it because Silva believed that using the method allowed you to open up your mind to some sort of higher universal consciousness. This kind of thing generally gets criticized by religious groups because it's a competing philosophy. - perfectblue (talk) 17:14, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Many Silva Courses not just one
The article , while correct in a limited sense, seems to be taken from a narrow POV. The Silva Method has many variations. The article is from the prospective of the Silva Ultramind. The Silva Ultramind is a course that focuses on ESP and intuition. The Silva Method BLS (Basic Lecture Series) focuses on your control of your own mind, controlled relaxation, improving memory, sleep control, awake control etc. The basis of the Silva Method is controlling your center of your brain frequency distribution to the Alpha region (from 9 to 14 Hz) and controlling what you focus on mentally. It is not really spooky stuff and has been the starting point to many of the similar programs that have copied Silva. The Silva Method BLS is the course that most people think of when they hear the name Silva Method because over 4 million people have taken it. The Silva Ultramind is a superb course buts lacks the focus on controlling your own mind. It is best thought as a specialized version of the Silva Method. On hypnotism Jose Silva was an expert hypnotist before he discovered the basis for the Silva Method. Hypnotism while good for some purposes does not allow you to control yourself independently. It ties you to the hypnotic suggestion. If you want to change that suggestion you usually need outside assistance from a hypnotist. The Silva Method differs in that you write your own program. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.235.115 (talk • contribs)
