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[edit] Otto Rank
In Otto Rank's The Myth of the Birth of the Hero, he tells the story more or less as follows: King Sigmund returns home from travel to learn of accusations of his wife's illicit relations with a menial. He orders her tongue to be cut out in the forest as punishment. In executing the order, she secretly births a child and places it in a glass vessel which falls into a river and travels downstream. It is found by a doe who nurses the young child, and subsequently found by a wise smith of the forest, Mimir who names him Siegfried and takes him as his own. But growing large and wilful, Mimir gets rid of him by conspiring with his brother, Regin, a dragon, to kill him. But Siegfried slays the dragon and then slays his unloyal father.
Now, I don't see anything even remotely resembling this in the Wikipedia article. Is Rank just plain mistaken, or what?
--1000Faces 22:51, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
Ahh, the answer is found here, Regin: The Thidrekssaga relates a slightly different tale, with Regin as the dragon and Mimir as his brother and foster father to Sigurd.
[edit] Sigfried in Popular Culture
Sigfried is also a minor and mysterious character of Final Fantasy VI.
[edit] Corruption?
The introduction states:
- The name Sigurðr is an Icelandic or Norwegian corruption of the German Siegfried as the correct Old Norse would have been Sigruþr (Sigröd), a form which appears in the Ramsund carving that depicts the legend
This sounds strange to me. AFAIK, the Norse stories of Sigurðr are attested much earlier than the German ones of Sigfried, so why not rather assume that Sigfried is the corruption? The only information I could find on the etymology of the name(s) is BehindTheName.com, where it says concerning Sigurd: "From the Old Norse name Sigurðr, which was derived from the elements sigr "victory" and vörðr "guardian"". Thus I don't see why Sigurðr should be taken as a corruption of Sigfried. --Pinnerup 22:47, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
- Well, Eric Brate, who is the source of this information was both a notable runologist and a translator of the Poetic Edda, so I think we should take the information seriously. By "corruption", Brate can not possibly mean that Sigurðr was "derived" from Sigfried, but he most probably means that that the corresponding Old Norse form of Sigfried was Sigröd and that a poet mistook Sigröd/Sigfried as Sigurd when the traditions reached Norway from Germany, Sweden or Denmark.--Berig 23:07, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
