Talk:Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor

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[edit] NPOV re Death of Murad and Battle of Nicopolis

In the section on Beyazid in Ottoman Empire, i've NPOVed the portion on nature of Murad's death and outcome of the battle of Nicopolis (AKA Nikopol, Bulgaria). I edited only that article, for the moment, since it is clearly in progress (and the contributor may be about to review transcriptions or wording for reconsideration) and since there are two articles at hand that contradict the battle part.

I am also adding this note to talk pages of Ottoman Empire, Beyazid I, and Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor.

If the Ottoman Empire contributor defends her/his version with sources, IMO others should also bring forward sources, and there should be discussion, in case the factual dispute is not resolved, about how to lessen the burden of NPOVing the various articles affected - e.g., could all three articles say "see Death of Murad and Battle of Nicopolis for controversial matters relevant to this section"? -- Jerzy 20:37, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)


[edit] Unclear passage

Parts of the following passage is unclear:

Through his marriage to Mary of Hungary, queen of Hungary 1382-1385 and 1386-1395, Sigismund, always the jealous type, became only her consort. Earlier, because of Sigismund's wickedness, he was expelled from Poland, which was then given to Mary's younger sister Jadwiga I of Poland, who married Jagiello of Lithuania. ...

"Earlier" than what? What "wickedness"? "which was then given" = Mary's sister became queen(?) of Poland?

--Michael Noel Jones 14:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Elections and titles

I've removed the description of Wenceslaus, Sigismund's brother, as emperor. If the article can be wrong on so basic a point then I don't feel I can trust it at all. When I have time, I'll come back to the article and at least sort out the stuff about Sigismund's election, which is very unclear. I will need to look at his election and the passingly mentioned rival election of Jobst, and also at the circumstances of Sigismund's coronation (not mentioned here but likely to be revealing because the western schism was still in effect). The statement that Sigismund was "elected emperor" strikes me as dubious, though I've left it in for the time being — because it is my impression that emperors could not be elected, only kings of the Romans (I'm presuming that's what he was elected as); should a king of the Romans be subsequently crowned by the pope, that would make him emperor. "Emperors-Elect" (gents not crowned by the papacy but calling themselves emperors anyway) were a later phenomenon, as far as I know. Such things all take time to check properly — you have to look at who the electors were, where they convened etc. — but I will come back. qp10qp 20:30, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

The discussion on the List of HREmperors page would agree with you on the 'emperor elect' question, and gives Charles IV, 1355-1378 -> Sigismund, 1410-1437 as the relevant HREmperors during this period. --Michael Noel Jones 00:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Latin

I have changed the translation of "Ego sum rex Romanus et super grammaticam" to the much more famous version. It is the translation given by Carlye and is clearly in the spirit of the original. In fact I can't find the previous translation on any page that isn't derived from this one, leading me to believe this may have been the work of an overzealous editor.

83.67.100.215 (talk) 15:40, 24 November 2007 (UTC)