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In the section "Clement of Alexandria (150-211)", the quote "It was after many successive periods of years that men ..." is from chapter V of the Exhortation to the Heathen, and not, as noted, from The Stromata. -- Fullstop 12:59, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Added link to Samanera. Merge with Shramana?

I added a "See also" link to Samanera. We may want to merge Samanera into Shramana. Discussion? -- 201.19.77.39 12:57, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

no merge. different meaning. Samanera is purely Buddhist. Shramana is more hindu/ ajivaka/ buddhist/ jain. small boy, too: not big man. 10:06, 2 October 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sacca (talk • contribs)

that's irrelevant. "merge" doesn't mean "the terms are identical", it means they should be discussed together. --dab (𒁳) 10:15, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, and they should not, because they're too different. Same applies too samaneri, which is quite different from samanera, and different rules and conventions apply to them. Do you know anything about Buddhism? Greetings, Sacca 10:51, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I see you also reverted my merge of Samaneri to Samanera. Why? this isn't wiktionary, we don't keep a separate article on every term. If "Shramana" is too different, merge them into Sangha#Ordination_process, but don't keep them around as isolated stubs. Why do you want to know if I "know anything about Buddhism"? As far as I can see, there is no factual dispute, merely a question of how to arrange undisputed material. --dab (𒁳) 11:16, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello, They are two different statuses, they are part of different sanghas. Just like boy and girl, monk and nun. Samanera is quite sufficient already, not a stub anymore. Samaneri is a stub, but stubs can exists seperately, and thus they will grow. they don't need to be mixed up. Also: mind the template. they are separate there, too! Greetings, Sacca 11:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)