Talk:Shoggoth
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This page was proposed for deletion January 2005. The discussion is archived at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Shoggoth. Joyous 18:29, Jan 23, 2005 (UTC)
Edit-locked from adding this vote, which I'll place here in case it illuminates anything...
- Keep. CfD seems entirely filled with non sequiturs. Only conceivable reason for deletion would be notability, if the focus on genre items is deemed too great. (But this is by far from the 'worst' such example, and isn't the focus in any event self-defining by WP's users?) Alai 18:44, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC).
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Shoggoth.jpg
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BetacommandBot 19:19, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] CLARIFICATION
Clarification and source is required here on almost everything - especially when dealing with a subject as nebulous as this: which books/authors/games/films/comics describe the material in Origin and History section? There is no point writing about a fictional entity as though factual and citing evidence only on the Talk page - every property that is described should be ascribed to a particular author and story. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.192.137 (talk) 23:19, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Erm. Could we have some clarification/proof that Shoggoths can reproduce via binary fission, as I would imagine that an immortal, self-reproducing creature such as a Shoggoth would quickly produce so many 'offspring' they would cover the planet !!
Also, since the first Elder Thing cities were made on land by Shoggoths [before the Elder Things later moved to underwater cities], they would not need to develop "an ability to survive on land" !!
Also, as there's nothing written about Shoggoths and an imitation of "Elder Things' society", can that be clarified. 193.243.227.1 11:07, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
The latter two are correct. Lovecraft does write that they needed to develop/be adapted to survive on land. (Maybe they built the land cities with other creatures- they are described as using stone-lifting pterodactyls to build towers.) He also describes that they have replaced the art with a degraded copy of Elder Thing art. The fission I'm not sure about. 98.196.46.72 02:13, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Still have my doubts about Shoggoths and being adapted for land, so I'll have to re-read some of the relevant material and then quote it. As for the Elder Things Society, poorly imitating their art is not the same as copying their society - which would infer ideas, concepts, behaviour, tools, etc.
193.243.227.1 (talk) 11:05, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
