Talk:Shiloh Shepherd Dog

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Shiloh Shepherd Dog was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Reviewed version: November 14, 2007

[edit] GA Fail

I'm afraid I have to quick fail this GA nomination, due to lack of citations throughout. There seems to be a single inline citation, and one reference to an external site. Additionally, the lead should be extended, per WP:LEAD. Until the references are sorted though, no full review has been done. Carre 20:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Quite. An article, to be GA-class especially, must verify information with reliable sources and attribute particular facts to particular sources through citations (either in footnote or Harvard reference format). VanTucky Talk 20:43, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Actually, if you review the References section, you can see that many different reference materials were used, the citations simply aren't inline. Shell babelfish 18:45, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I was aware of that. However, if you read the GA criteria, inline citations are expressly required. If you don't attribute particular facts to sources through inline cites, then the reference material is nearly worthless. Leaving it up to the reader to hunt down what source verifies what fact is not GA-class work. VanTucky talk 19:04, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
  • smacks forehead* I remember now -- the breed clubs were complaining about one getting more links than the other and ended up listing them as text. I've fixed that, changed the lead to summarize the text, re-ordered it, removed some weasel words, removed extra photos with little purpose, added additional references and clarified some information. Any other suggestions or things I may have overlooked? Shell babelfish 21:05, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Good work, but are Shilohs frowned upon or disqualified in regular Shepherd circles like whites are? For the sake of NPOV, I think the relation between Shiloh breeders/enthusiasts and the mainstream Shepherd community needs to be dealt with more. VanTucky talk 22:17, 28 November 2007 (UTC)