Talk:Shannon Hoon

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Is there anyone with information regarding whether or not Shannon Hoon was related to Axl Rose? There are many "Rock Trivia of the 90's" sites out there that claim they were brothers; I do not believe that to be true, but I do not want to post anything without facts. Thanks.

No they were not related. They were both from Indiana (possibly the same town). They became friends because they were both indiana boys living in LA (or something) and Axl asked him to sing on "Don't Cry".

Shannon's sister was friends with Axl (school), and was introduced through her....much later on of course.


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[edit] Death

It says on this site that Shannon died of a heroin overdose, which is what I have heard before, but the Blind Melon website says it was a cocain overdose. Can anyone verify this? I looked around but most sites just say it what a drug overdose without specifying which drug. UPDATE:

Shannon died of a cocaine overdose NOT a heroin overdose. It was in the back of the band's tour bus. He had his clothes neatly folded at the foot of his bed.

Is it odd to have an article about a person ad the only picture of them is a gravestone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gcostanzo (talk • contribs) 02:22, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

Placed cleanup tag. This article needs to be wikified, edited and better structured as an encyclopedic biography. It also seems to be mostly a re-written version of a (copyrighted?) media biography: see this version from the page history Revision as of 04:16, Jun 13, 2005 --mtz206 18:31, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)


I did some cleanup. Still need to arrange it into sections. I'm also not sure about the paragraph about the supposed final day of his life, particularly the "LA Smoothie" and "1-900" references. Unless someone can come up with a source for that, I'm removing it.

Mtz, do you have a link to the media biography you referenced? I just did some rewording of this article, but if I can see the bio this seems to be based off of I will do a more thorough rewrite to take it farther away from the source material. Isotope23 28 June 2005 13:27 (UTC)

No, I don't have a hyperlink. But if you look at the revision as of 04:16, Jun 13, 2005, it has the glaringly problematic heading of "A Biography of Shannon Hoon; From Staff Reports Lafayette Journal and Courier October 1995", and subsequent edits seem based on this presumably copywritten biography, with only a few words changed (which, IMO, isn't enough to prevent claims of plagarism). --mtz206 June 28, 2005 14:28 (UTC)
OK, I'll check that out and see if I can find the source. I plan on doing a complete rewrite over the next day or so. -Isotope23 28 June 2005 15:49 (UTC)
I rewrote the article. I still need to do some formatting and add some links before removing the clean-up tag. - Isotope23 28 June 2005 17:55 (UTC)
I edited/removed some of the reversions by 208.59.115.41. Most of these were remove statements of opinion, or to give it a more encyclopedic style rather than the style of a Rolling Stone article. Two things in particular I removed because there is no corroboration:

"peaking at #28" - on which chart? It wasn't the billboard album chart. Perhaps the College charts or something along those lines, but if you want to have that in there find out which chart it hit #28 on. "tried to kick out the back windows of the squad car, and ripped a phone from the wall at the police station." - Can you cite a source for this (and I don't mean some fansite). If you can link to a reputable source like a police report on smokinggun.com, I'll leave this in. Isotope23 5 July 2005 17:01 (UTC)


IMO, this article looks pretty good now with the latest changes by McPhail and Lithium. Are we good to remove the Cleanup tag? Isotope23 17:19, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
I'm removing the cleanup tag. If anyone disagrees, go ahead and put it back in.Isotope23 17:08, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

PICTURE Could someone add a picture of Shannon? Thanks.

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Hoon3.jpg

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BetacommandBot 21:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Fixed it. --Hst20 16:29, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plagiarization, Copyright issues and wikification

Following some attempt at wikification and references, I noticed that the first listed "external reference" (which appears to be a blog or fansite) is the page I believe someone referred to as having been copied and presented here. While the page has some good stuff, there's gotta be tons more out there. Lets please be creative and for the time being, sure, leave the structure there, but try bit by bit to replace most of the plagiarized text with a mixture of reviews, biography, new material, and the usual acceptable sources to make this a good page. --leahtwosaints (talk) 17:29, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Amazing that the plagiarized external link in question vanished almost instantly after my post above (within hours)! At least some people read the talk pages :-) Now, how's about some photo of Shannon? Does someone know how to place an empty silhouette like that on Bernard Fowler's page? That might do the trick to find an acceptable picture. --leahtwosaints (talk) 14:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)