Talk:Shakespeare's influence on the English language

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This article was nominated for deletion on 14 November 2006. The result of the discussion was keep.

Contents 1 Author 2 This article should not be deleted. 3 This article is shamefully bad 4 To Do 4.1 Format 5 grammar

[edit] Author

I am the author of this essay so what ever questions need to be asked can be addressed to me. Amanbis 12:29, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This article should not be deleted.

This article discusses HOW Shakespeare changed or affected the English language, it is not merely ABOUT Shakespeare. It even includes internal citation and a bibliography, so why is is it being addressed of having weak sourcing? Please, if you really must think it should be deleted, discuss it here and give some good reasons. Amanbis 12:28, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

• Sorry to say the sourcing is extremely weak. Among numerous other problems:
  • http://www.bhsu.edu/artssciences/asfaculty/rochse/eng426/Papers1- is broken. Produces "The BHSU webpage that you have requested has moved or no longer exists. We apologize for the inconvenience."
  • http://mockingbird.creighton.edu/english/worldlit/teaching/upperdiv/mideng.h is broken. Produces "The page cannot be found".
  • http://bardweb.net/words.html is broken. Produces "404: Page Not Found - Truly, the tree yields bad fruit."
• I'm pretty sure this page will be deleted unless these problems, and the others mentioned in the {prod} box, are addressed very soon. AndyJones 20:55, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

• • I've commented keep at the deletion discussion. The article needs a lot of work but has potential. Amanbis, please consider signing your talk page posts with four tildes ~~~~. It helps us know who said what when. Thanks! ++Lar: t/c 17:02, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This article is shamefully bad

This article needs more than a lot of work. That it survived a deletion attempt is shocking. Just because it would be possible to write an informative article about Shakespeare's influence on English doesn't mean this is it. We would do well to delete this content start over. To indulge in an example, the article asserts, "Shakespeare introduced style and structrue to an otherwise loose, spontaneous language," whereas previously there was "no grammar binding the expression." To reiterate, the author claims that there was "no grammar" in English before Shakespeare. The article consists of bad information badly written.

This is the WP, for the love of god. That an article is not up to snuff quite yet is not grounds for deletion!! 140.247.159.15 11:02, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] To Do

[edit] Format

Change it from the typical essay (paragraph) format to the "Wikipedian" format. Amanbis 12:29, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] grammar

"The naturalness gave force and freedom since there was no grammar binding the expression."

As an above commenter indicates, it's impossible for a language to have no grammar.