Talk:Sergey Nechayev

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[edit] catechism of a revolutionary — joint authorship?

I edited user:Max rspct's comment that Bakunin's authorship is "largely discredited". While not wanting to champion the joint authorship theory, i think it's fair to say that it has its proponents. Maybe i've missed some recent scholarship, but the article by Pomper cited in the bibliography closely analyses the language of the catechism and finds that bakunin was one of it's authors. The same argument is developed in Pomper's Nechaev biography published a few years later. Many other contemporary writers attribute the catechism to both nechaev and bakunin.

pomper's main points are:

• phrases and distinctive language of bakunin in the catechism
• a copy in bakunin's handwriting was seen by mikhail sazhin
• nechaev threatened to expose bakunin's part in the catechism
• parallels with parts of the bakunin-authored document "international alliance of social democracy's declaration of principles"
• bakunin quoted article 11 of the catechism word-for-word to zemfiri ralli, and makes statements in private letters to nechaev that echo the words of the catechism.

ntennis 02:38, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

In the Freedom press book Bakunin and Nechayev a letter from B to N is revealed with Bakunin wtiting "....your Catechism..." And the book says the Catechism is not written is Bakunin's style - will dig it out later today. -max rspct 09:24, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Cool. So given that there are notable opinions for and against, do you agree that the current text stating that "Nechaev (posbibly with Bakunin) wrote the catechism" is suitable? By the way, there are several other inconsistencies in stuff written about Nechaev (eg. his date of death). If you have an interest and reliable information, it would be great to have a fact-check of this article. ntennis 02:14, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

If I am not mistaken, a draft manuscript of the Catechism in Bakunin's handwriting has been located. As for the suggestion that Nechaev and Bakunin were lovers, that is absurd. Bakunin was impotent, his children fathered by another man, and showed no interest in any kind of sex throughout his life.76.170.116.176 23:59, 14 September 2007 (UTC)D. Ward

Thanks for the tip. If you could find a source for that info, we can add it to the article. On your second point, it doesn't seem absurd at all to me that a man who was impotent with women, and whose children were fathered by another man, would have a homosexual romance. Can you elaborate? Thanks, ntennis 05:42, 7 October 2007 (UTC)