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I cleaned up a lot of inappropriate vandalism. myeung123 06:40, 7 February 2007

Article has been expanded. Please check updates. Thanks. — RJH 15:24, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

According to some sources including Leonov EVA was the primary goal of Voskhod so i am not sure about the line of an airlock being rapidly 'added' to the craft. Korolev's original 1961 plan for a 10 manned flight Vostok programme included an EVA.

In the article more should be made of Korolev's brilliance/genius at improvising technical and engineering solutions at the last minute that perhaps contrasted the approach of the Americans. Sputnik 1 as a replacement to Sputnik 3 is already mentioned but there are other instances. This also makes his death more individually disasterous for the Soviet Moonshot as Korolev knew that the N-1 could not carry the payload for a LEO mission but based on his experience and luck to date Korolev believed he could pull it off.

I find the articles statement that "He also had to work with less advanced technology than was available in the U.S." a little idiotic, this man made technology far in advance of the USA for example the R-7 whipped the pants of its capitalist rival, not only that the first man in space mission lasted longer, was as performed before the USA.

[edit] Did Korolyov create the Katushi

Did Korolyov create the Katushi, rockets carried around on a truck?Travb 08:09, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you so much, and a link too!Travb 19:37, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sputnik-3 Failure

It is true that Sputnik-3's tape recorder failed. It is not true that it failed to map the radiation belts. Telemetry was received in Russia, England, Alaska, near the equator by a Russian telemetry ship "Ob", in Australia, and at the Russian station in Antarctica. From this data, Vernov published a fairly complete map of the radiation belts, comparable to Explorer-4. Van Allan's failure to give Vernov any credit was highly questionable. DonPMitchell 21:03, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Academician Boris Chertok recalls, that because of failure of the tape recorder, it was possible to receive telemetry data only when the satellite was seen by ground control stations, and there were not many of them. So the radiation data was scattered. At first this data was considered to be a malfunction of on-board sensors. Vernov made broader conclusions based on this incomplete data, but these conclusions were initially rejected. After Van Allen discovered radiation belts, Sputnik-3 data was analyzed again and Vernov's conclusions proved true. Nevertheless, Van Allen was the first to publish results about radiation belts in open press. Mikus (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 17:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Voskhod crew diet

In the article there is reference about the Voskhod crew going on special diet in order to reduce their weight. While researching in order to write the greek Voskhod article, I noticed that the Voskhod rocket payload capability was well over the Voskhod 1-2 spacecraft weights (by 150-200 kg). It seems to me that most of the equipment stripped from the Vostok in order to create the Voskhod was removed in order to create space within the capsule - opinion backed by a technical article in greek which points out that the backup retro engine was added in case the extra liftoff power pushed the Voskhod to a higher orbit than planned, thus eliminating the possibility of a natural orbit decay and reentry within acceptable time. Whichever the case with the stripped-down equipment, it seems unlikely that the few kilos gained from a crew diet would make any difference - Badseed 08:46, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] potential source

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070930/ap_on_sc/sputnik_s_secrets —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.19.53.136 (talk) 19:20, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Korolev or Korolyov?

What's the best spelling of the name? Night Gyr 01:23, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Korolyov is the transliteration of his Russian name, Королёв, per WP:RUS.
Korolev is the transliteration used by the Library of Congress, and adopted by James Harford for his biography of K. (Harford (1997), p. xvi)
--Jtir 17:31, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Date of Death?

The article states that it was Jan. 14, but other sources indicate the date as Jan. 12. The source I am reading also says Jan. 12, the book Two Sides of the Moon by Alexei Leonov, who went to comfort Korolyov's wife on the day of his death, so I'm pretty sure he would know. Can someone clear up this confusion? 67.83.120.179 01:12, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I believe, that either an author, a translator or you confused the day of his death with the day of his birth (January 12, 1907). January 14 as the day of his death mention such sources as Britannica, Great Soviet Encyclopedia, Biography at the website of Russian State archives, official website of the town named after him and a plenty of other sources, just ask for more ones. Cmapm 01:58, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, I guess that answers that. Thanks. 67.83.120.179 03:11, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
James Harford's bio also gives Jan. 14, 1966. (p. 332)
Scott and Leonov (2006) reads: 'But two days after Korolev's birthday party I received a phone call from Yuri early in the morning. ... "Sergei Pavlovich has died."' (p. 143)
--Jtir 17:54, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

There's a NASA photo here, if needed.--Estrellador* 19:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

This is a nice photo, with the dog. More info here. Maybe the article would benefit from a photo gallery? Sdsds 04:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the links. AFAICT, the photo is not copyrighted, so we can use it. And NASA has written the caption: "Sergey Korolev, founder of the Soviet space program, in July 1954 with a dog that just returned to Earth after a lob to an altitude of 100 kilometers on an R-1D scientific rocket." --Jtir 21:15, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
The photo was already on commons, so I added it. The article does not say anything about the 1951 dog launch, so I included that info in the caption. I also moved some images around. --Jtir 19:27, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ukrainian name for Korolyov

I added ukrainian spelling of his name, why was it deleted? He is considered to be one of the greatest ukrainians of 20th century, it's not a place for political games here. --Sylius 03:35, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wolfe does not name Korolyov in The Right Stuff

Wolfe does not name Korolyov in The Right Stuff. I could find neither "Korolyov" nor "Korolev" here, so I have removed this sentence from the article.

  • In his book The Right Stuff US novelist Tom Wolfe constantly refers to Sergey Korolyov's design as "the mighty Integral" or "the omnipotent Integral" to characterize him as being the secret mastermind of the Soviets early Space Program.

Wolfe is referring to a spaceship called the Integral in Yevgeny Zamyatin's novel We.

--Jtir 12:56, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Wolfe uses the name of a spaceship called the Integral in Yevgeny Zamyatin's novel We as a metaphor for the Soviet launch vehicle, the Soviet space program, or the Soviet Union. --Jtir 19:38, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
FWIW, I have made mention of The Right Stuff in We (novel). [1] --Jtir 20:23, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Although Wolfe never names Korolyov, he does use the epithet "the Chief Designer" several times:

  • And no names; it was revealed only that the Soviet program was guided by a mysterious individual known as "the Chief Designer." (p. 55).
  • ... catch up with the new generation, the new dawn, of socialist scientists, out of which had come geniuses like the Chief Designer (Builder of the Integral!) and his assistants. (p. 56)

--Jtir 17:44, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I've restored Wolfe here. --Jtir 12:04, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Who knew Korolyov's last name?

[Copied from User talk:Jtir in response to this edit.] --Jtir 20:58, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

It is a well-known fact that his name was revealed to public only after his death, so you don't really have to worry to cite this detail right now. Maybe later, when you come across the citation, you may add it. wikipedia:Attribution does not require you to cite each and every statement. `'юзырь:mikka 20:20, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I didn't know anything about this until I started working on the article. I don't have Harford, but will try to get a copy. Apparently his last name was not known to the cosmonauts either. The article quotes Scott and Leonov (2006), p. 53. Alexey Leonov says:
  • 'He was only ever referred to by the initials of his first two names, SP, or by the mysterious title of "Chief Designer", or simply "Chief". For those on the space program there was no authority higher.'
--Jtir 20:58, 6 June 2007 (UTC)