Talk:Serbs of Montenegro
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Why is "nationalist" not NPOV? The People's Party is Conservative, the Democratic Serbian Party is national-democratic; the Movement for Changes is liberal, the Socialist People's Party is social-popular... If you don't think calling the Serb People's Party "nationalist" is NPOV, than you must most definately agree with calling the Serb Radical Party that way. No? --PaxEquilibrium 16:22, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Vuk
Please note - I know Vuk S. K. is simply of Montenegrin origin in the long run, but he is to be mentioned here as he is mentioned as a prominent Montenegrin by many famous researchers (Slavenko Terzic, etc...) and he himself expressed his Montenegrin origins. --PaxEquilibrium 17:30, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, then put it in subsections (i.e Prominent decendants of Serbs of Montenegro (hope to be on that list myself one day :-))) and source it. --estavisti 19:54, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Will do. The source is Vladimir Corovic's book "History of the Serb People". However, I would still like the answer on the "nationalism" bit to the up. --PaxEquilibrium 20:28, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
"However, I would still like the answer on the "nationalism" bit to the up." Ово ми није баш најјасније. Шта хоћеш тиме да кажеш? --estavisti 20:51, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
The "nationalist" Serbs' parites... --PaxEquilibrium 21:04, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Notable Montenegrin Serbs
At least 3 of the people listed are NOT Serbs, but Montenegrins by nationality.I don't want to be accused of vandalism again,so I suggest that Filip Vujanovic Miras Dedeic and Petar I Petrovic Njegos should be removed from the list for obvious reasons.Sideshow Bob 18:53, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- There is absolutely no reason to remove Petar (yes, Montenegrin nationality - but Serb ethnicity); Miras is a man from Bosnian Krajina with little or no Montenegrin blood; he only became the head of the MOC because he was defrocked because of various reasons (and there is no real evidence that he's Montenegrin at all, even by nationality). Filip is a Serbian born in Belgrade, with indirect Montenegrin origin present. He remained of Serb nationality only until recently, when he became a fervent Montenegrin nationalist (pretty much like the case with Milo), so that does qualify him to be here (I left out Milo Djukanovic because of his far too rightist attitudes). --PaxEquilibrium 18:59, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Nationality is defined by how a man feels, not necessarily by their origin and ancestry. So thus I'm still convinced that Vujanovic and Dedeic should be removed from the list.As far as Sveti Petar Cetinjski is concerned,read his Short History of Montenegro, from the Serb nationalist website njegos.org,and you will see that he reffered to his people as to Montenegrins.Leave his aspirations of bigger,united empire with Serbia,and there is nothing left to prove the thesis about him being a Serb from Montenegro.It doesn't make sense to put random rulers from the Petrovic dynasty in the same 'notable Serbs' pool along with Obrenovics,Karadjordjevics and certain war criminals.They have nothing in common and you know that. And also, I would like you to explain me what difference you see between terms "nationality" and "ethnicity", since people are confusing them for each other frequently here. Cheers. Sideshow Bob 03:40, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- Well, I checked the terms in the ol' Constitution of Montenegro, etc... I am not mixing nationality & ethnicity - the Nation was Montenegrin - and the ethnic group that held majority, according to the census (over 90%) was Serbian - I clearly differ ethnicity and nationality (however, here deserve to be listed Serbs from/or Montenegri either by nationality, ethnicity or both). --PaxEquilibrium 14:58, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
Part on Djukanovic WAS NOT neutral, and Movement for Changes is not pro-Serbian party. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.66.187.53 (talk) 09:35, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
