Talk:Sentence diagram

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Contrary to what it says in the first paragraph, sentence diagrams were never widely used professionally by academic linguists, but were always predominantly pedagogical in purpose. AnonMoos 00:53, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 What's the purpose? 2 Natural and constructed languages 3 R-K ref 4 The Buffalo buffalo etc. image example 5 Diagrams a Must 6 Hollow, hollow, hollow. 7 Greetings 8 regarding more pictures

[edit] What's the purpose?

The article doesn't say, and no one ever knows what it's really for, so what's the deal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.163.117.33 (talk) 23:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Natural and constructed languages

Currently, the introduction includes this sentence:

"In pedagogy, a sentence diagram is a pictorial representation of the grammatical structure of a natural-language sentence."

It seems strange to include the phrase "natural-language", given that sentence diagrams can also be used for constructed languages. Perhaps the phrase is not needed. Ordinary Person (talk) 08:55, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

to a certain degree, pedagogy and constructed languages are often exclusive: constructed languages are usually self-taught or researched independently (perhaps Esperanto is an exception?) Examples or quotations about sentence diagramming outside of natural-language teaching should be included. Actually I'd like to see reference or examples of sentence diagramming in ANY other language than English. Is there something about English that makes it especially suitable for diagramming? Cuvtixo (talk) 22:20, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps the "market" for English language sentence diagrams is greater than that for other languages. :-) Ordinary Person (talk) 03:08, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] R-K ref

The R-K citation seems unclear (which of the two works?), and the second R-K ref is incomplete: 'hundre' ?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kdammers (talk • contribs) 07:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] The Buffalo buffalo etc. image example

The picture diagram used at the top of this article (Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo) is a complex and tricky example of a sentence, and therefore serves as a poor way to begin an article that is trying to explain the concept of sentence diagrams. When I first arrived at this page I immediately assumed it was vandalism. Can this please be replaced with a more straightforward sentence example? Genedecanter 18:57, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I put it there because at the time there were no non-trivial example diagrams. Someone needs to make one. —Ben FrantzDale 18:58, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Diagrams a Must

Diagrams for each component would really help here. I'm off to search google because, despite being well-written, without diagrams this page doesn't help one understand the subject at all.

Perhaps an animation would be nice too, showing the process by which one would diagram a sentenceRSido 17:11, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hollow, hollow, hollow.

There seems to be a section missing. Shouldn't "Other Structures" be preceded by a section covering more basic structures such as verbs and subjects? At least one of the internal cross-references seems to dangle over this hole.

[edit] Greetings

I have a sentence that you can put into a diagram that is correct. I can explain it as well, but I need to know how to do such a thing.... Thank you and please answere as soon as you can.... Please answere me on my talk or I may not get it, thank you..... In the morning we walked to the rim of the volcano. Rianon Burnet 16:02, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] regarding more pictures

This page, as suggested before, needs examples of each individual type of diagram. Anyone else agree? Anyone willing to do it?

(I made a new section so that people wouldn't be looking for where the discussion for the tag is, instead of placing it in the previous suggestion) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flashpoint (talk • contribs) 20:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)