Talk:Secret and special weapons in Showa Japan

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[edit] Proposed merge

this article should be merged with Japanese Military Equipment of World War II. both need verification, sources, and cleanup. 68.236.56.59 19:42, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC) A.K.A. user:autopilots

I agree on the merge, but this is such a mess! Lots of work needed here; starting with verification and removal of all the conspiracy-theory "Beyond imagination" stuff. Ppe42 02:57, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Not sure about the merge, partly because the article is so incomplete. Were it complete, it would be too long for merge. I agree this article is a mess. It's not technical enough for historians, and not general or comprehensive enough for casual readers.

The article does a good job describing the balloons, but for example, important projects in weapons of mass destruction are barely mentioned. Also, there's no mention of weapons which they got from the Nazis, for example the ME-163 rocket plane, which was tested in Japan.

There's certainly a lot of material, as discussed in another heading, on weapons which weren't "secret" in one of the senses it's usually meant. For clarity, it might be better if the "list sections" were merged or removed. Alpha Ralpha Boulevard (talk) 08:19, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removed section for editing

"=Special combat techniques=

is relationed with japanese army or navy combat infantry techniques or ideological, counterintelligence and counterespionage tecniques,why poses participation somes japanese secret societies and nationalist groups how Black Dragon Society and similars. example of this are the Anti-Stalinist or Anti-Soviet Special Combat techniques developed for NKVD Gen.Lushkov for count of Kwantung Army inside plans against Soviets in Siberia the very special combat, counterespionage, ideological propaganda and others training to Kempeitai Recruits and regular members, the combat training at Non-Japanese special Units in Japanese Army andNavy forces,some hand-to-hand combat training with Martial arttecniques(Karate,JiuJitsu,Kendo,etc) at Japanese Army Special Forces, the fight behind enemy lines train to special Army Paratroopers of Giretsu groups,Kamikaze training, and others.

japanese special forces:

Between these groups if mentioned the nexts:

-Kempeitai
-Giretsu special Airborne group
-Japanese Navy SLNF
-"Asano" Division(all russian special group)in Kwantung Army
-"Mongol" Army(all mongol special group)in Kwantung Army
-Kamikaze force Units"

I removed this because in english, special forces are considered separate from secret or special weapons. I think kamikaze planes might have to go back in, but maybe there should be a dialogue about whether that goes under something else. Any suggestions? Pjanini1 22:01, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Weapons weren't secret or special

- TERA Rifle: Folding rifle for paratroopers

-Submachine Guns:

- Type 100 Sub Machine Gun: typical first generation submachine gun
- Bergmann Sub Machine Gun: typical first generation submachine gun

-Grenades/infantry protection:

- Ceramic Grenade: last ditch weapon manufactured because of lack of metals
- Infantry Armor: couldn't find it on google; doesn't mean it didn't get researched, but the verdict is still out
- Type 2 AT Rifle Grenade: rip off of the schiessenbuchen grenade launcher designed in germany
- Lunge AT Mine: a stick with a bomb on the end that you run up and pole a tank with, dying in the resulting explosion (most of the time).