Talk:Second Coming (LDS Church)

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McConkie Doctrine is not recognized by most branches of Mormonism (and it is somewhat controversial in the LDS Church too), and so this article's title needs to be changed to something like Second Coming (Latter-day Saints). Also additional references & materials need to be provided on this article. -- 12.106.111.10 19:21, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Mormonism typically refers to members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints only, not to the RLDS (now Community of Christ), FLDS, or any of the other splinter groups. So I think Second Coming (Mormonism) is a fine title, but if the general consensus says otherwise, change it. Additional references would be good, too. Oh, and I think Mormon Doctrine is an acceptable source. Useight 19:55, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I think you might be able to write a NPOV article about what general "Mormonism" thought on the topic of the 2nd Coming might be, including extensive writings by Joseph Smith. I would have to agree that including as the primary source of this article information from the Gospel according to Bruce is a very strong POV bias that simply violates WP:NPOV. Many, many other sources could be included here that could explore this concept in much better depth than what is mentioned here, including LDS General Conference talks, and an extensive discussion could even happen over what other LDS denominations may think about this topic as well. Going to any reasonable LDS-themed bookstore (commonly found in areas with high numbers of LDS believers) will find a dozen titles on this topic. An extensive bibliography could perhaps even get as large as a hundred titles.

For now, this should simply be considered a very stubby article, and perhaps something in dire need of some quality markup tags and other issues at the moment. It also doesn't seem like something any particular Wikipedia editor/contributor wants to spend too much time working on either.

For myself, I think the name change to Second Coming (LDS Church) is unfortunate and done by somebody who is insisting here that others in the LDS movement have no other opinion or thoughts on this idea either. And they are blinded by seeing the McConkie text. I would support a futher renaming to Second Coming (LDS) instead, if there is an insistence upon not using the term Mormonism. Or else simply rename the article back in the first place. This should not be just about the LDS Church's view on this topic, and other related articles for other LDS denominations will likely be merged into this one. Or the other way around. --Robert Horning 13:25, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

The notation -(LDS Church) specifically means the article only applies to the LDS Church, meaning The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Articles with -(Latter Day Saints) means that the article applies to all or most churches in the Latter Day Saint movement. This article is obviously meant to only apply to the LDS Church. Anyone who want to can create a Second Coming (Latter Day Saints) to discuss what most Latter Day Saints believe, or, for instance, a Second Coming (Community of Christ) or a Second Coming (FLDS Church) if they want to discuss the beliefs of a specific church. WP does not use -(Latter-day Saints) as a disambiguation. SESmith 22:11, 3 July 2007 (UTC)