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Contents 1 lipsynching 2 NPOV 3 vocal type. 4 Singles on the Radio 5 Hip-Hop

[edit] lipsynching

He does lipsynch. Everyone does. I'll eventually edit this page so that it's more neutral if no one else does it (I'm not the biggest se7en fan, so I don't know that much). SKS2K6 06:20, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Se7en does not lipsync. If you find an actual clip as proof that he lipsynced, then I will allow you to remove that tidbit. Please do not assume things that you know very little of. If you do not know that much, as you say, you have no right to edit this page as you please.

I stand corrected...but holy defensive, Batman. SKS2K6 06:44, 20 October 2006 (UTC) EDIT: I said what I said earlier, though, because in the Korean entertainment industry, it is hard NOT to, especially because the stations are not ready to handle all that live-ness. I believe MBC is the only network who had a live-only policy, and even then... SKS2K6 06:51, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Please Read: I can assure you that SE7EN does not lipsync whatsoever. As the writer of the entry has previously stated, SE7EN holds a adamant belief that all singers should sing LIVE despite their circumstances i.e. ill-health and etc. I understand that a lot of Korean artists find it hard to sing especially with such heavy dance routines; however, if you can ever find an actual performance whereby he contravenes his principle, please feel free to edit the page. As for now, it is a mere fact that SE7EN is one of the rare singers that do not lipsync. Even if MBC is the only Broadcasting Network that enforces a 100% LIVE policy, by all means, it does not imply that SE7EN cannot perform LIVE on other TV Networks i.e. SBS and etc.

attention: "I can assure you that SE7EN does not lipsync whatsoever." -----who are you to make that assurance?

"SE7EN holds a adamant belief that all singers should sing LIVE despite their circumstances"-----as with many other beliefs, how many are thoroughly proven?

Haha, so can you prove that he does not lipsync with 100% certainty? No, and therefore the "fact" you stated is merely another myth.

Ark some hardcore fans who watch every live performances. Can you find some prove that he lipsync? Even in a few hours concert he'd never lipsynced. Your logic that "Everyone else does lipsync, so Se7en must lipsync" is...errrr. Nonlipsyncing with fast songs and dance makes him stand out in Korean music industry.

Do you have a source? Word of mouth doesn't cut it. mirageinred 23:18, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

just type in se7en live performances in youtube, you can tell he is live. even though he does heavy dance routines he still doesn't lip-synch. PrincessOfHearts 23:54, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I asked for a source. Unless there's a source (YouTube and forums are not sources), your claim can't be verified. mirageinred 01:39, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Added a source. In second to last paragraph of the article, he talks about not lipsyncing. StarCrystal 22:36, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

i know its not a source but im just sayin.... PrincessOfHearts 22:42, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I've read that he does not believe in lipsyncing. I don't remember where, but I do remember seeing some of his performances where he messes up on his dance moves. He falls over, and tada, he stops singing. I've been a fan of se7en for a few years now and I don't believe I've ever heard him lip sync. I don't have a source, but other fans will tell you the same thing. Weezcake 08:35, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Finally a source. mirageinred 22:38, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Since someone finally found a source, I guess we can delete the "needs sources" tag? Weezcake 12:58, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

sure. mirageinred 15:25, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

The "dubbed movie" quote still needs a citation, since it is a quote. SKS2K6 17:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Could we just remove the quoted part then? i can't find any source for it -- and google only shows copy-paste copies of this article. Weezcake 09:36, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

The whole thing reads like a bio on his web page than an encyclopedia entry. Things like "instant hit", or his "distinguished" vocal range (honestly, it's like any other Korean pop vocalist). Minor things like that shift the pov. Also, can someone expand the career part? It's just a mix of facts at this point. SKS2K6 06:51, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I've reorganized the career part. And his vocal range is not like any other Korean pop vocalist. It's very rare that male singers can hit the high notes like he does. And what's wrong with instant hit? He WAS an instant hit. Take a look at other singers' wikipages like mariah carey, britney. They have to say something regarding their popularity or their vocal abilities otherwise, the wikipage will be severely lacking in information.

--Aino2000

Kim Jong Kook? The Shinhwa members? KCM? Lee Jung? V.O.S? They all have high voice ranges. SKS2K6 04:11, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

He is not the only instant hit. There are tons and tones. And instant hit is wrong because the term is not very encyclopedic. mirageinred 05:15, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

I changed that line. I don't think you can dispute it now.

--Aino2000

Look, I realize that you are a fan. And that's why I must say that the page doesn't exist to praise the singer you like so much. Criticism is crucial to broaden the coverage of the article. Unless he is like Roger Federer of the Korean music industry, there has to be critics. mirageinred 05:17, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Thus the page is still POV. The problem with Korean artist pages is that they do not receive much attention except from fans which leads to POV edits. mirageinred 05:21, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Can we remove the NPOV tag now? Weezcake 19:44, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] vocal type.

According to the article's current claims, he is a baritenor. However, I've always had the impression se7en is a tenor. Although he rarely sings tenor, just mostly in the upper baritonal range. Can anybody verify this? Aznality 05:13, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Singles on the Radio

Is this information necessary? Would all the other songs that have been played on the radio be considered as singles too? (ie. other songs from his albums that are not listed here) I don't think it's that informative and will probably cause confusion. I suggest a deletion unless someone objects.. StarCrystal 20:24, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hip-Hop

wouldn't Se7en also be considered korean hip hop? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PrincessOfHearts (talk • contribs) 21:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC).

Some might argue that he's hip-pop. StarCrystal 14:25, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

oh because i was going to add korean hip hop as one of his genres