Talk:Screaming (music)

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Articles for deletion This article was nominated for deletion on 6 July 2007. The result of the discussion was keep.

I'm objecting deletion. It is quite possible that this is original research.It's also quite possible to tell the difference between these different types of screaming, and as the topic says, they are often improperly grouped together. I'm not the author of this, but I do scream in a Post-Hardcore fashion, which is extremely different from a death metal vocals or even punk yelling. You can't just group musical singing styles together just because they have a common connection of being forms of screaming. It's like saying let's group together all the different species of cats and just give them the title of cats, rather than their different breeds. I know that's totally of topic, but it's just an example of why you can't group things like this together into one. Each has its own stylistics and and different approaches to actually sing them. Ozzie347 17:22, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Add Black metal

Someone should definitely add Black metal singing to this article, it is different from Death metal so it should be mentioned.MyTemple 16:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Objection

I have ab objection to where grindcore is placed in the article. The style is widely recognized as originating more from the punk geneology than from the metal one (having most of its roots in hardcore), so I propose that it be moved to the punk section, and the punk section be altered from "Punk rock" (which implies the late-90's movement only) to "Punk" (which implies all of its subgenres, from emo to hardcore to crust and all points inbetween, etc). Anyone else agree?

I like the way it's set up chronologically here, in terms of rise to popularity (first modern art music, 1950's and 60's, then punk, 1970's, then thrash and death, 1980's, then emo and post-hardcore, 1990's and 2000's). Moving emo and such into the Punk section would break that up... As for grindcore, doesn't really matter to me where it is, as long as the sources I dug up don't get removed. Chubbles 06:28, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps then we should just remove the genre headings and start each new section with "Screaming in the 1950's" (or whatever decade we are on next)? I think that would work. Ours18 03:04, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
I think that that is a great suggestion Ours18 that could help people understand the order that it is in.

Bradman3001 22:44, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Zen Of Screaming

I think that part should be removed it seems like a random advertisement and doesn't elaborate on the topic at all.

Bradman3001 10:18, 22 July 2007 (UTC) Brad

No, she is the one who teaches peoples to scream better and preserve their voices. This is important.

Cross appears to be notable enough to mention, but that should not extend into blatant advertising for her technique, which I have removed twice now. Chubbles 19:27, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't believe it is important because she isn't a doctor and she tells people that it hurts there voice/vocal cords. I believe it is misleading because I have talked to my doctor about it and he told me that it has the same effect on your voice/vocal cords as chronic singing. I scream for a metal band that I started with my friends and I have to say that after singing my throat feels much more taxed than after I scream. Bradman3001 22:41, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

I think that the line "Screaming and growling can damage the vocal folds if not done properly." She isn't a doctor and if you read the article on vocal folds you will see that they are capable of regeneration so how could she know if they get damaged or not in the first place. 69.223.70.52 23:40, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Post-hardcore?

Why not just hardcore? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.5.200.68 (talk) 03:55, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't think theres any screaming in hardcore punk, and metalcore has already got a mention Illwish (talk) 12:09, 4 May 2008 (UTC)