Talk:Scrapbooking

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[edit] Scrapbooking Materials

  • Removed edit by Firewriter: It is important to use the proper type of adhesive. More information about adhesive selection can be found here.

- Any discussion of "proper" materials belongs in the following paragraph about quality of supplies for archival purposes, not where it was placed.

- The link is just a blatant promotion of someone's webpage, since the relevant information on adhesives found there is only one sentence long. If that information is really so important for a general article on Scrapbooking, then it should be included as data, not as a link. If the linked site is very popular and contains a good deal of information, simply list it in the links section of the article.

MamaGeek Joy

[edit] External Links

I think external links can be extremely helpful to those researching a topic. Instead of removing it entirely, I suggest discussing potential additions here and reaching a concensus for inclusion. Does anyone else have a comment?

MamaGeek Joy

I agree.... so does my wife.... so does my vote count as two  :) These links have been helpful.

1freethinker 15:19, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

I have begun doing some reviews of the sites below, in an attempt to find the best of the best to list on the main article page. If anyone else is willing to contribute to this effort, it would be appreciated. Simply add your review under the link.

MamaGeek Joy 14:30, 20 October 2005 (EST)

What's the process for moving recommended external links from here to the main scrapbooking page? I suspect that more people would find the links if they were on the "official" scrapbooking page instead of the discussion page.

Daveviner 19:20, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Basically, it requires consensus. So far, no one has even seconded a single recommended link below. We just don't want a zillion links on there to all the myriad sites out there on the topic (and there really are a ton of them). Some sites are very helpful, well-done, highly popular, and informative. Others are just commercial sites selling scrapbooking supplies, with maybe a few tips on there to get people to the site. We need to whittle down the list and agree on which ones are worthy before putting any of them in the main article. MamaGeek (talk/contrib) 01:20, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


Remember to observer Wikipedia's policies on External Links. That is to say, any external links should be encyclopedic, preferably non-commercial and provide information beyond what is appropriate to include in the article. In particular, Wikipedia is not a repository for external links, so it is not really enough to link to some fairly popular sites to do with scrapbooks. -- Solipsist 19:50, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Links under consideration

 The external links in this article may not follow Wikipedia's content policies or guidelines.
Please improve this article by removing excessive or inappropriate external links.

Scrapbook Business Education Programs:

ScrapBiz was started in 2001 as an alternative to the multi-level direct sales companies in the industry. Instead of selling products to consultants, who in turn, would sell them for a small profit to customers, ScrapBiz helps women start their own businesses. Business members purchase products for resale directly from scrapbook product wholesalers. ScrapBiz is one of the largest retail education groups in the industry and has incubated many successful industry businesses.


This site aims to simplify "Scrapbooking How To Instructions" for Beginner Scrapbooking Enthusiasts seeking a much more simple approach to Scrapbooking. We launched the site in 2007 (so we are very new) but we have already received great feedback from subscribers (mini-course students) and visitors. Our hope is to bridge the gap between beginner Scrapbooking interests and the vast supply of superior Scrapbooking Ideas, Techniques and Project Details available online and offline.

Cijaye 18:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)


Scrapbooking Supply Websites:

 This is the very first scrapbooking supply store! It was started in 1981 in Spanish Fork, Utah
 (where it still stands today) under the name of "The Annex" (please see how the scrapbooking
 industry started, at Keeping Memories Alive's history) and changed to its current name in 1994.
 
 This store is also the first one to have a scrapbook supply website, www.Scrapbooks.com,
 registered and first uploaded in 1996. It is this store that was the base which all other scrap-
 booking companies (including those with magazines) followed suit of when they started to open in
 the mid-1990s and later.
 
 Keeping Memories Alive has many original patterned paper designs, and they design new products
 that form new styles to keep things exciting and hot! KMA sells many other scrapbooking products
 that are on the edge of the latest styles for your scrapbooking pleasure, while at the same time
 keeping prices down for the budget-minded scrapbooker.

 I'll second this one!  Being first IS significant enough for inclusion. FreedomWorks! 18:36, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

 I will third this one!  As stated, being first is significant enough for inclusion, as was the extensive work done by this company and it's owner in researching superior materials to use and coming up with the creative setup ideas that many other follow up companies used in their own companies.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.115.49.127 (talk) 11:03, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


Great resource for all things scrapbooking.

This scrapbooking site offers over 5000 scrapbook supplies and embellishments. Scrapbooking gallery offers lots of great layout ideas.


 Contains some galleries of layouts, but not all images load properly
 Parts of the website are incomplete, such as the Resources section
 Message board appears to be fairly active, with many users, and recent posts
 Shopping section appears to be main focus of the site: "Two Peas in a Bucket is an Internet-based scrapbooking store"

 Second! The message board on this site rocks! It's VERY active.  
 But I'd include TwoPeas under "Scrapbooking Interaction Websites" FreedomWorks! 18:36, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

 Appears to be an ameteurish online scrapbooking charm store, with a notice that it is currently closed due to a fire
 Only sells charms, not a mainstream scrapbooking site

 "Our Super Scrapbooking Store offers thousands of scrapbooking supplies at discounted prices, providing all your scrapbooking needs in one convenient place!"
 This looks like a pretty professional scrapbooking supply site, including customer service and scrapbooking instructional guides
  • [http://www.scrapboxx.com.au Scrapboxx. This is a great site for a gallery, forum and online shopping. It is very popular in Australia and had thousands of members.
 Active online scrapbooking community, thousands of layout ideas, good articles.  
 Store includes both digital and paper scrapbooking products.

 Why choose Scrapbooks by Sally?
 
 Unique design 
 Simple page layouts 
 More photos per page 
 Backgrounds enhance photos           View Sample Scrapbook Pages
 No clutter 
 Great price 
 
 Let us create a one-of-a-kind Scrapbook for you or someone you love!



 Manufacturer of the Scrap Wrap (R) Scrapbook Album.  A Patent Pending design which uses Velcro (R) as the binding 
 system instead of Posts, Screws or Straps.  Also printer of on-demand custom scrapbook paper.--Rdhinman 21:33, 25 August 2007 (UTC)


Digital Scrapbooking Websites:

  Discover memories of your children you didn't even know existed. So many times your friends come over for dinner or your family comes to visit for the holidays. They all have digital cameras and take a ton of photos of your children. Most of which end up on their computer somewhere or collecting dust in their camera. With MyBabyOurBaby.com you invite all of your friends and family to add photos and memories of your children all into one place. This site helps people to capture all kinds of memories, to collaborate with family and friends, and to allow you to create keepsakes out of those memories.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.88.165.111 (talk) 19:13, 27 February 2008 (UTC) 

  Very large scrapbooking community with thousands of members, gallery posts, and free downloads
  MamaGeek Joy recommends this site for inclusion in main article

  Digital scrapbook graphics store, contains few freebies, few tutorials
  Has small community of gallery posters (in the hundreds)
  Basically a good site, but limited and best features require payment

  popular online scrapbooking site used by a lot of folks
  Dave recommends this site for inclusion in main article

Scrapbooking Magazines

Scrapbooking Printing

Scrapbooking Ideas

  Get all the exciting scrapbooking ideas,suggestions,tips and techniques for your Baby,wedding,
Military Personnel and Lots More.

Scrapbooking Interaction Websites:

The Bookit - Create your own hand stitched-book easily:

  • [The Bookit Create and assemble your own hard bound book

[edit] This looks like a link farm

I'm just passing through and didn't click on EVERY link, but these are not primarily informative sites, except on how to use the stuff being sold. Some of the sites may be run by folks who are really nice, who have been instrumental in the spread of scrapbooking, and who have brought joy and satisfaction to thousands. But WP is an online encyclopedia. Small businesses are not excepted from the rules. Truly informative sites that had substantial amounts of neutral information would probably meet standards as I understand them. DCDuring 11:01, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Controversies Section

The following section was removed, because it's unreferenced and sounds fake. If the person who added it can find a reference, go ahead and put it back. It just looked too blatantly obvious to be left in there. MamaGeek (talk/contrib) 12:04, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

 This article does not cite any references or sources. (January 2007)
Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unverifiable material may be challenged and removed.

In 1998, Ian Alexander Mackley started the Moonlight Church of Scrapbooking which was investigated in connection with the deaths of several middle aged women. Though no charges were filed, the church dissembled in 2000. Ian Alexander Mackley was quoted as saying "Screw all y'all".

[edit] WikiProcess =

Wiki Best Practices - I invite all you Scrapbooking lovers to share the best practice for scrapbooking.

[edit] How to section

Something needs to be done with the How to scrapbook section. It doesn't seem to be enough of a "how to" to merit a section with that title, and most of it simply reiterates ponits already made in the other parts of the article.

Materials needed, the importance of archival-quality and acid-free materials, and the availability of digital scrapbooking are all discussed in other sections. There are points that may be necessary to keep because they are not elsewhere in the article: the point that there are no rules, sketching, and use of quilling and flowers for embellishments.

I propose an edit, but I'm not sure where to go with it. Thoughts? Should we keep a "how to" section? If so, how should it be structured? I think WikiProcess is the place for how-to, not here. (See comment above on Wiki Best Practices). (Actually, after clicking that link and exploring a bit, I'm not sure that WikiProcess looks so promising, after all. Most of the "articles" on there are just plain offensive.)

Scjenne 17:38, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I draw your attention to Wikipedia policy WikiPedia not a guidebook. Where this section goes, I don't know; but it certainly doesn't belong in Wikipedia. DCDuring 16:04, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Creative Memories

I'm just a newbie, and I don't have time to read all the history on this article, but I am frankly dumbfounded that I don't see even a single reference to Creative Memories in this article...not even a link! Did I miss it somewhere? The history section contains extensive references to the development and progress of another scrapbooking company, which just seems lopsided to me, knowing the actual impact that Creative Memories has had on this industry. Is it worth my time to try to balance this article, or will I be reintroducing content that has already been decided against? Staceyburz 19:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

What actual impact did Creative Memories have on this industry other than to follow suit the original company? Creative Memories did not introduce anything new. The major impact on this industry was made by the original beginning scrapbooking company, who started the idea and did the research on the materials that are best used, etc. All the "cookie-cutter" companies to follow should not expect to be named in this article- there are simply too many of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.115.49.127 (talk) 10:53, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Citecheck

The article incidentally says that Mark Twain got a patent for a "self-pasting scrapbook", not that he kept one. DCDuring 15:42, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Many of the things in the article are highly likely to be true, but could use some kind of valid support. Otherwise, it will start to look like a mere puff-piece with NPOV problems. DCDuring 15:51, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I'm upset is this so much unwiki ?

"Modern scrapbooking is done largely on 12"×12" or 8½×11" pages. "

  • We don't have '""s', only centimeters at home. Sorry, there must be one more tag to put upon poor scrapbookin' page, but I ignore which. Go ahead! -- DLL .. T 20:32, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History section improvement

Scrapbooking has a long and very interesting history which is not covered here at all. There is far too much coverage of one modern woman's recent career in the American scrapbooking industry, and very little coverage of the origins and development of this activity throughout history, which frankly, is far more interesting and encyclopedic. This reads way too much like an advertisement (I suppose I could have used that tag as well). The Victorian era receives no mention at all, which is a huge oversight. I'll try to work on it as I have time, but some research and help would be appreciated. I'm better with copyediting than writing due to time constraints. SlackerMom 12:20, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mark Twain?

In case nobody's watching, the reference link for Mark Twain has nothing to do with scrapbooking. swain (talk) 22:44, 29 January 2008 (UTC)