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I think the Clan chieftain field should be changed to Clan chief, because i think a chieftain refers to someone subordinate to the chief. For example when wearing the crest badges chiefs wear three feathers, chieftains-two, and armigers-one.
Another thing is clans don't have arms. Its a common misconception that they do, same ppl believing their family has a coat of arms. The infobox is just gonna keep this fantasy going on, so i think this field should be removed.
I'm not sure that any clans are going to have more than one seat.
There should be a field for Clan commander, a few clans have these, like Clan Macfie. Commanders are appointed by the Lord Lyon and are different than a chief.
The motto field should be somehow incorporated into something to do with the crest badge. The motto is actually the chief's motto, not the clans. Both the chief's motto, and the chief's crest are in a clansman's crest badge. They don't belong to the clan. Maybe two fields named "Crest badge crest" and "Crest badge motto".
One thing that will make this infobox tricky is including sept names. Lots of clan have long lists of spelling variations which they call septs. Including these are going to make the infobox dominate the article, making hard to include pics in the article.--Celtus (talk) 10:22, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Example of the infobox out of control and dominating its article Clan Buchan.--Celtus (talk) 08:20, 25 April 2008 (UTC)