Talk:Scouting in Belarus

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[edit] Scouting in Belarus

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Article(s): Scouts-in-Exile, Scouting in Belarus

Request: Can you folks please make the black areas red and crisper defined? This one is about 60 years old, so the copyright is (maybe?) not in question. Thank you again! -- Chris 05:09, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Graphist opinion: I'll set to work on an SVG > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 07:03, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay, i've done the outline, where should I upload it to, if it is copyright free then i'll upload it to commons > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 08:08, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
I'm not so sure that this image is free of copyright. PD-Russia means that the image must have been published before 1954 but the author must also have died before that date in order for the work to be PD. We don't have the name of this person, so how can we tell for sure? Logos are only PD in Germany, not in other nations, so please don't upload the file to Commons. They have deleted a ton of logos for this exact reason. Valentinian T / C 08:23, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up Valentinian. Hows this for the outline Chris ? (PS: went ahead and coloured per your instructions, added text and cleaned up a bit ( And just noticed MediaWiki's changed the font of the text when rendering the SVG, when we are happy with the position etc, i'll convert it to path so it won't change the font) ) > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 08:45, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Just remembered to tell you guys, I am not going to be here (off on Holiday) from 23rd August till 3rd SEptemebr, sorry for any inconvenience caused. Have Fun ! > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 19:07, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

The two leafs look very thin. The original fleur-de-lys has broad leafs with a line running down the centre. Could you make them more like the original? Valentinian T / C 19:27, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
The base idea is really good, thank you so much!
As per Valentinian (nice to have a heraldist/vexillologist here!) the petals do look thin, actually part of the petals are missing in the redraw.
Also, the redraw is much more angular than the original, which though small, should have rounded edges throughout. Is there a way to start with the base image, rather than having to redraw it?
As to the font, you got the characters exactly, but they should all be upper case, not upper-and-lower. (and sans-serif like Helvetica or Arial if you have it)
That's all I see for now, thank you so much! Chris 21:31, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay 1) I've now put the extra part of the petals (don't know why I left it out ...) 2) As for the text, it is kind of hard to put it in upper case as the characters aren't english, though they may look it, could you get the Belarus's Scout Motto off the Scout Motto page and convert it to uppercase, then I can put it in 3) When you talk about the angular thing, do you mean that all the corners should be rounded on the emblem?

Anyway I off on holiday now, so don't rush to answer the questions. See you soon ! > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 06:26, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Cutting and pasting from the Cyrillic alphabet article, I get "БУДЗЬ ГАТОЎ" as the uppercase version of the motto. I've uploaded a new version with that text, converted into a path so that there can be no rendering problems. I've also smoothed some of the curves a bit, and added missing background to the lower petals. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 18:01, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Ilmari, the text is perfect! Kiitoksia paljon! :) I've put up another graphic to point what I see still needed. Chris 02:54, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
The changes I see needed are:
  • there should be no "crimp" at the top, the petal should be less angular
  • the sash should be straight on both edges, not curved
  • the lower petals are much smaller than in the original
  • the center of the bottom loop should not be red, just the loop itself

Chris 23:51, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Guys i'm back ! Just made the changes to the the logo as stated above & in the instructional image, how does it look ? > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 08:23, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Great! Welcome back! If the middle petal could be a little rounder, think an onion dome, that'd be great, then the only other thing left to be done is to make all black details red. This should at the end only be bicolor. Thanks! Chris 21:34, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

This okay ? Edit: If it isn't, could you draw an image that I can trace? > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 16:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Rugby, you so rock, this is great! Thank you! Chris 21:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

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