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[edit] remove John Carmichael (Scientologist)

I suggest we remove John Carmichael (Scientologist) from this template. I think this template is only useful if we restrict it to the truly important articles. Otherwise, huge names, like Cruise, LRH, and Miscavige get lost in the clutter. Carmichael can still appear in the relevant list and categories. --Rob (talk) 23:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I disagree, he is the President of a major branch of the organization. There is more info out there in secondary WP:RS/WP:V sources about this individual but I just haven't had a chance to do a search for references yet. Cirt (talk) 13:37, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Note, I'm *not* talking about inclusion of the article in Wikipedia, but only whether a direct link is needed from this template. This template links to List of Scientologists where he can and should be found. He's on other articles as well. Keeping the number of links down, allows this template to be used as a convenient navigation aid. Remember, this template normally appears in most of the articles it links to. Carmichael may be a big deal locally, but he's much less important than Tom Cruise (who used to be the first "people" article link), L. Ron Hubbard (duhh), Mary Sue Hubbard, etc... A link to Carmichael, makes those other links less conveniently accessible. For somebody to get a basic understanding of Scientology, it's important to read about those other people, but it is essential to read about Carmichael. Remember, the type of behaviour/comments/views Carmichael is known for is discussed in other articles linked to by this template. Carmichael is notable per WP:N, but he hasn't played a defining role in the movement, as others have. It's hard for me to make my point, as it won't be clear, until one-by-one scores of other comparable people are added. --Rob (talk) 05:15, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Hrm, perhaps you are right, I'll remove his entry in the template for now, pending more info to be added to his article regarding prominence within the movement/organization itself on a more national level. Cirt (talk) 22:36, 8 June 2008 (UTC)