Talk:Schranz
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DJ Amok is a hardcore techno artist, he doesn't make what you europeans call "schranz".
So what do you call his releases on his label Artillery then? It's certainly schranz/hard techno; most definitely it's not hardcore techno, he's a techno producer who has been at the forefront of the schranz scene for years along with several of the other big German producers.
I have no idea what you're going on about with happy hardcore either - what does hardcore have to do with this topic at all? spiralx 16:42, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
I don't think adam beyer or cari lekebusch make what most people call schranz. fair to say, the stuff on drumcode in the late 90's pointed the way to schranz, but now they have never made it themselves. adam beyers recent stuff is more minimal and housey.
I would like to most definitly join this discussion, now and important question is, where is everyone from because if you are from North American your understanding of schranz is limited because this style of music is not popular at this time and has been absent in the development of schranz. I myself am from North America but having enough friends who produce this music in Germany and as well as other parts of Europe I believe I am qualified to help answer some questions. First off, even by reading the disciption of schranz which has become a unpopular term do to the confusion of mainstream hard techno artist being labeled as schranz. The unpopularitry of this mainstream word to describe hard pouding kick, high frequencies, industrial sounding mids all filtered with distortion, running at 145 - 155 bmp. DJ Amok is one of the pioneers of what schranz is today, as for Liebing he began the seed and mainstream term but does not qualify enough to be considered schranz because his music rarely goes past 145 bmp and has more of minimal approach as of opposed to the schranz artist you will find. One of DJ amok's most memoriable tracks is Nightmere part 1 and 2, now listen to this EP for yourself and ask yourself does this compare to Adam Beyer, DJ Rush, Gayle San and of course Umek which to me are either hard techno or (european) progressive minimal techno. I must note that DJ Rush is a main supporter in the growing of schranz but even then i would not consider him schranz artist unless by some chance i have missed recent EP that proves so. Now further innovators in schranz is Sven Wittekind, Frank Kvitta, Tomash Gee, Teknicty, Viper XXL, Arkus P, OBI, Switchblade, Seema, Matt M Maddox, Weichentechnikk, DJ Spark, Jackhamma & Greg Notill.. There are many more artist who have contributed to this scene but these artist I listed I find represent the scene with style and quality, you can find more about the discussion of this style of music on www.unitedsb.de. There is an international section for those who do not read German or Dutch but this is where many of these artist helped spread the word of schranz, showcase there music and have disuccions on this type of music from its past to future, so please check it out. This site is the only one I can think of too date that has been through the beginning to end and where you will find accurate links and information about schranz.
Now i would like to note that anything that his labelled hardcore is 170 bmp and +.. so there for DJ amok is not a hardcore artist, although when playing in places like Hungaria and Slovenia he has been known to speed up to 165 - 170 bpm level because these places prefer hardcore and find schranz a bit to slow but like industrial and dark feel as a opposed to Happy Hardcore.
Gayle San and Umek never plays schranz! some artist like stopyrzenika (it is mean butcher feet) this is only stiupid joke :(
Err, he said that neither Gayle San nor Umek play schranz, they play European hard techno. Anyway, good post Astrid909 :) spiralx 08:25, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
"Hungaria and Slovenia he has been known to speed up to 165 - 170 bpm level because these places prefer hardcore" Uhm... hungarian hardcore scene consists about 100-150 people or even less, that's hardtechno what you talking about, not hardcore (gabber).
--84.2.199.15 16:18, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm a hungarian partyanimal, so living in the centre of the techno area..LOL :D I don't think that DJs plays music in a different speed while they are in hungary. We call them, becouse we like their music. Most of them says he likes really much Budapest-Hungary, becouse of the people and the clubs. Don't know why to write here, just bored... :D Yhunykx is the best. and of course hungarians : reset, killswitch, kheops. Visit Budapest for a really great underground techno party!!!
I am from North America, but I was living in Germany at the height of "Schranz" popularity and I specifically went to see artists that were frequently lumped under this categorization.
At the time, schranz was somewhere between 120 and 140 BPM. Heavily influenced by industrial dance music and rhythm noise, but make no mistake... it was definitely techno. A lot of standard 4x4 beats, but frequently mixed with electro-type breaks. Although this was the general feel, every DJ had their own style and would mix all kinds of other things into it to take the crowd by surprise... like...
"holy shit... isn't that hook from some eighties tune?" kind of surprise.
It was common to see a really diverse crowd at schranz shows. Industrial, punk, and people from the eighties who likened it to the good ol' days of electronic dance (like MicroChip League, CCCP, and shit like that).
What schranz is now is not what it was then. I miss that style of music, I can't believe it faded! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.53.228.87 (talk) 02:50, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
