Talk:Schräge Musik

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[edit] Etymology

I don't agree with the explanation for the term Schräge Musik even though I found it on many other (but only non-German) sites. First: In my eyes a better literal translation is slanted music. Second: If there's a relation to jazz it's only a double entendre. With Musik as a slang expression for (machine) gunfire (sometimes used in old gangster movies) it's just an informal description of the installation of guns slanted upwards. Alureiter 08:15, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Quote; Schräge Musik was first used operationally on the RAF raids on Peenemünde on the night of August 17, 1943. Three waves of aircraft bombed the area, and successful radar countermeasures by the RAF meant that only the last of the three waves was met by any sizable group of night fighters. The two Groups of the third wave, the 5th and Canadian 6th, lost 29 of their 166 planes, well over the 10% point at which losses were considered to become "unsustainable". In this raid 40 aircraft in total were lost; 23 Lancasters, 15 Halifaxes, and 2 Stirlings. Unquote; This is in fact incorrect - firstly the oblique cannon set-up had been trialed for a few months before the August raid, and the main cause of losses on this raid were the 'Wilde sau' free-hunting FW190's and BF109's who -due to their higher speed- managed to catch the final wave and attack visually. I will clean the article up presently [[Harryurz 13:33, 5 March 2006 (UTC)]]

I have given this a minor cleanup, but it still needs a lot of citations and some of its comments may need verification. Adrian M. H. 17:14, 25 November 2006 (UTC)