Talk:Saz
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SAZis is an originla turkik instrument which , arrived with the turkish tribes to asiaminor andfthe ballkans,form the central asia.Predecessors of it are found and widley used anoung all the turkik tribes living in central asia.It is clearly NOT a decendent of bouzuki,as it is likely the greeks to have adopted the instrumnet from the turks beieng under the turkish rule for more the 400years.
[edit] Article is completely wrong.
There's no such musical instrument called "saz". Saz means musical intrument (any) both in Persian and old Ottoman Turkish. The real name that the article refers is baglama.
Does the word saz in Turkish also refer to a particular leaf? I have seen it used to describe a style of decoration on Iznik pottery and cross referenced here. Marshall46 11:45, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
I agree that the article is completely wrong. The word "saz" literally means "instrument" in Turkish and is used to define all kinds of instruments. This may be confirmed in any Turkish dictionary. Just because some people use it in a different context, the article shouldn't be based on that. Marshall46, as for your question, the word "saz" also means "sedge" in Turkish. It has the same spelling, but the meaning is different. --386-DX 16:30, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
- The term "saz" is, as innumerable sources verify, used to refer to a certain family of plucked stringed instruments. That the word used to ghave a broader meaning is of interest, and should be mentioned in the article, but that's all. (It's like saying that the article on Horse is "completely wrong" because "horse" meant "animal" in Old English.) --Mel Etitis (Talk) 18:21, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
According to The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians, "the terms 'baglama' and 'saz' are used somewhat interchangeably in Turkey, applied to a long-necked lute of folk traditions; the tanbur (distinguished as the 'great' tanbur) is a larger instrument of art music." (I'll add this to the article in hopes of clarifying the matter.) -- Gyrofrog (talk) 18:53, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Tembûr
Currently, Tembûr is a redirect to the Saz article. According to Grove, the tembûr is associated with the Ahl-e Haqq sect in Kurdish areas. I am planning to make Tembûr its own article (see Talk:Tanbur (Persian) for my reasons and for other details). Thus, it will not redirect to this article. Thank you, -- Gyrofrog (talk) 18:53, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
