User talk:Sassf
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[edit] Your edit on Talk:Indian_Rebellion_of_1857
You have a reply on that page, and if possible you are invited to speak up in the last three sections. --Bobby Awasthi (talk) 12:58, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Help
{{helpme}} I came across this article David Henry Wilson whilst de-deadending things - it clearly needs sorting out. The subject himself has added a complete list of his works. I'm sure this isn't appropriate but I'm not sure what is the best thing to do about it. I know that the author's contact details definitely need removing (!!!) but I'm leaving the page as is for a little bit so whoever is kind enough to help me :-) can see the original page. Many thanks for any advice!Sassf (talk) 23:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Hi there! Thanks for bringing this to our attention. In concern of that article, the best thing to do would be to put up some WP:CLEANUP tags on or improve it yourself; also, you may want to check up on notability of the subject to see if an article is appropriate. Hope that helps, Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 23:06, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
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- Thanks. Just a couple of other questions if thats ok. I've noticed elsewhere subjects politely being told they shouldn't edit articles on themselves - do you think I should put something on his talk page? The subject is notable - he seems to have plenty of books on amazon so thats fine but re: him listing all his works on the page - do you think just pruning most of that out is the best thing to do? It just kind of looks like a cv otherwise... Sorry for all the questions, I don't normally tackle too many living people (on wiki, not RL ;-) and I feel a bit unsure about some of the best courses of action in the long run.Sassf (talk) 23:17, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
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- Tackling in real life is even more fun. :) You're right, subjects of articles should ideally avoid from editing their own articles, as that may present a conflict of interest; even Jimbo Wales has been caught trying to edit his own article to fit his point of view. Also, the plenty of books part is great but I'd say check if they're self-published and also how much they've sold. And it does look like a curriculum vitae at this point; his list of works should preferably be trimmed or reworked.
- And don't worry about asking questions; if there's anything else you'd like to know, I'd love to help. Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 23:20, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Re:James Fox (singer)
I noticed your conflict of interest flag on this article. I failed to get any response from the editor in question so I have gone ahead with a fair bit of tidying up and I have removed or re-worded much of the inappropriate content. Please check and let me know if you think this has been sufficient to merit the removal of the tag. Jud (talk) 18:53, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for looking at that so quickly. I had noticed a couple of days ago the fairly obvious COI and went back add the tag. I did see you'd only recently put a message on his page but seeing as I'd tagged the article I thought I better put it on his userpage too. I know what he'd written wasn't especially harmful but it read quite self promotionally and peacocky to me. I made a few more edits subsequent to your as there were a few terms that really were getting on my nerves a bit (frequent unsubstantiated use of 'popular' for instance). As for removing the tag its purely up to you but I think the article is a bit better now. Of course most of the info does come from the person with the apparent COI but at least most of it is referenced. Personally i think a few of the references are a bit dodgy (self-references to myspace and youtube) but I'm not really sure what can be done about that save tagging the article. Theres far too many external links too - if there's no tag for that I'm going to stick it on the talk page. Cheers! Sassf (talk) 23:54, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
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- Thanks, that's a great improvement. I agree that the COI tag can probably be removed now, but I will continue to keep an eye on it. Clare Teal is a notable artist in her own right, (her name was misspelled, hence the red link) so that information could be replaced. Jud (talk) 01:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Looks like I spoke too soon - the original editor appears to have resurfaced with a new user name and is continuing to add personal information. Perhaps you'd better put it back! Jud (talk) 19:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, looks like you're right. I've readded the tag and I've posted some bits from the policies on the talk page in the hope the editor in question will bother to read them. If it continues I might list it on the suspected sock puppets page. He's not really doing any massive harm, its just all a bit promotiony, but it is against the guidelines so needs to stop. :-) Sassf (talk) 20:49, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Looks like I spoke too soon - the original editor appears to have resurfaced with a new user name and is continuing to add personal information. Perhaps you'd better put it back! Jud (talk) 19:48, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, that's a great improvement. I agree that the COI tag can probably be removed now, but I will continue to keep an eye on it. Clare Teal is a notable artist in her own right, (her name was misspelled, hence the red link) so that information could be replaced. Jud (talk) 01:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Bouncer23 (talk) 22:09, 19 February 2008 (UTC)Hi I am not the original editor.............I am trying to get the page back into line, and sound interesting at the same time. I have read a lot of the bio's of other artists, please bear with me I am doing a bit at a time and I may make a few mistakes along the way....sorry It's not meant to be promotional ( I can't/am not speaking for the original editor) just trying too incorporate some factual back ground and I am reading the links honestly.............The original editor has not responded to any messages because they are currently indisposed.Bouncer23 (talk) 22:09, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
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- Hi again, the people who run James Fox's website have been in touch and have assured me that it is highly unlikely that the subject of the article was making these edits himself, (he is currently performing to the troops in Afghanistan), so it was probably just an over-enthusiastic fan. They also asked me to pass on their thanks to you for improving it by removing the inappropriate material.Jud (talk) 01:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Regarding Editor Assistance
After rereading my comments here, I don't think I explained myself clearly enough. What I meant was that although Auto is an important guideline, Ignore all rules is, too. This states that one should, "If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it." As long as Bouncer23 keeps contributing quality and verifiable edits to the article, there really is no reason to ask him to stop. However, the COI tag should stay on the article until any users possibly connected with James Fox stop editing it and consensus says that it is neutral. I have gone through the article and removed some Youtube links that were used as references. As long as experienced and neutral editors keep weeding this kind of stuff out, and the whole thing does not turn into an edit war or blantant advertising, I would advise leaving things alone. I hope this helps and does not make things more confusing! Let me know if these comments make no sense; it has been known to happen before with me. ;-) Fléêťflämẽ U-T-C 22:34, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
