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WHAT IS SAP FULLFORM.....

1. On April 1, 1972, SAP was founded as Systemanalyse und Programmentwicklung ("Systems Analysis and Program Development") in Mannheim, Germany.

2. In its fifth year of operations, SAP became a GmbH (a closely-held corporation) and took on a new name: Systeme, Anwendungen, Produkte in der Datenverarbeitung ("Systems, Applications, Products in Data Processing").

3. Finally, in the AGM (Annual General Meeting) of 2005, SAP was termed as just SAP AG.

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[edit] Third largest?

Third largest after MS, IBM and Oracle should make it fourth largest, not third largest [[user:peasea|PeaSe

It's the Third Largest software Company. IBM is a hardware company, unless I'm much mistaken NeoNemesis

See World's largest software companies for Forbes view on this. --S.K. 12:34, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
The forbes list was done in 2000. The world has changed a lot since then! 74.65.39.59 01:07, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
It's called the Forbes2000 because it tracks the 'top 2000' companies. The data is from the 2006 survey, and is partitioned from the 'software and services' category. Kuru talk 01:18, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I am sure Accenture would be bigger than SAP. avadra

Accenture is a consulting company that sells SAP software. 74.65.39.59 (talk) 00:44, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] SAP is called S A P or Syap ? Why ?

Why always it is said that we should call SAP as S A P not Syap ? Is there any reason behind that ?

AFAIK it's es-ey-pe in common English usage and it's es-aa-pe in German. Who is recommending the pronounciation you've mentioned? Jbetak 06:30, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
In my experience as a(n) SAP consultant, the low-end users (e.g. data input clerks) tend to call is Sap (like from a tree) and the people "in-the-know" use ess-ay-pee. As far as I understand, SAP AG prefer us to use the initials. I'll try to find an official response and post back in a while Andy 14:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
I'll confirm Andy's anecdotes; low-experience users often call it Sap while professionals and experts tend to call it Ess-Ay-Pee. However, to me it's a case of to-may-toe, to-mah-toe: it doesn't really matter, and whichever you use will depend on how you learnt it. MTD 11:52, 27 June 2006 (GMT+1)
Except in this case, the tomato can tell you how to pronounce its name. I worked for SAP for 3 years and I can confirm the preferred pronounciation is es-ey-pe (at least in English). Saying 'sap' made us cringe. BostonRed 13:17, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
I've heard it pronounced S.A.P. (es-ey-pe) on SAP's commercials broadcast on CNN International. Richmd 00:13, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
If we're being descriptive (and not prescriptive) here, the usage is fairly complicated. It's true that more casual users pronounce it as a word and those who have a better knowledge of it tend to pronounce the letters separately (which is what the company itself prefers). It's more nuanced than that, though. I tend to think that use by the former group has influenced the latter group. For instance, most SAP professionals will always call the company S-A-P. But the software, when it's referred to as one gargantuan unit, is often pronounced Sap ('Is that data available in Sap?') Also, SAP consultants will almost always call themselves Sap consultants - not S-A-P consultants. It's about as consistent as everything else about SAP. 196.209.165.114 (talk) 18:43, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What is AG in SAP AG?

What is AG in SAP AG?

AG is short for Aktiengesellschaft and it means the shares are publicly traded. Richmd 00:10, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question

What is the full form of BASIS ?

 "Business Application Software Integration System"
This is a garbage backronym. Basis is a German word roughly equivalent to English 'base'. That's where the idea of 'basis' gets its name. (Then again - ABAP is a garbage backronym as well, isn't it? So we'll never know.) 196.209.165.114 (talk) 18:44, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Basis

Get rid of the section on Basis. Waste of time!

Done!, what nonsense that. Very poor use of English. --jum4

[edit] Citation needed or removal

Too much says citation needed and suspiciously it's the parts that trumpets SAP. If it's here next week I think it should be removed. Lazy people write things then expect others to do the hard work and get the sources. Needless to say some companies have been found to be editing themselves on Wikipedia.

Those citation needed tags have been there for months, it is obvious that no one has found a source to cite, in fact just looking at stock sites one can find that the valuation of SAP AG is not higher than even its main competitor Oracle, its not higher than Microsoft, or Google, one I suppose could argue about it, but it is silly without an actual reference to cite we are just interpreting data, which I think might be considered original research or not. Find a source by June 8th or all statements tagged citation needed will be removed. Please don't complain about the short notice the tags were there for over 2 months, you can add statements back in once you have a source. Have a nice day, and good luck on your search, I couldn't find anything, but maybe you can :). --JVittes 20:52, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What's the point...?

Quote from the article about SAP AG:

It ranks after Microsoft, Google, Apple and IBM in terms of market capitalization[citation needed].

Suggestion: Remove this ridiculous sentence.

What is the point in comparing the market capitalization of SAP AG to those of Google and Apple or even to those of IBM and MS (to some extensions)?!

If the point here is to show the value of SAP AG just quote Forbes and state that SAP AG assets are $60,1+ billion. If you need to point the value of the brand then point SAP's place in businessweek's ranglist for most powerful brands in the world.

If the point is to compare SAP with other software companies then pick better rivals which can make meaningful comparison. On one hand SAP AG does not operate on one and the same market neither with Google nor with Apple. On the other hand MS's and IBM's core business is different from those of SAP AG - so it is like comparing apples and oranges - they are fruits (software companies) but are not comparable. If you want to make comparison better compare SAP with Oracle or Infor (they are quite alike in terms of market, core business etc.)

[edit] Source giving timeline for SAP

Good link. Mathmo Talk 21:01, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:03, 24 January 2008 (UTC)