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Contents 1 Sources for relocation proposal content 2 Message to IP address 71.136.142.2 3 Storage Area Network is 10**6 times more important 4 Neutrality of "Relocation proposals" section 5 Single runway airport 6 Virgin Atlantic Service 7 Top 30 Airport/2006 Records

[edit] Sources for relocation proposal content

• Press release from Congressman Bob Filner, September 25, 2003

http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/ca51_filner/20030925airport.html

• "Filner keeps Imperial County on list of possible airport sites: Desert location still a long shot"

Jeff Ristine, San Diego Union Tribune, May 3, 2005.

• Float Incorporated: Floating Ocean Real Estate

http://www.floatinc.com/Floatport.html

Tobycat 20:29, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Wasn't there also a proposal at one point to make Mirimar a dual-purpose airport?

Also, someone should add some text discussing the fact that the landing approach to SAN is one of the most challenging because of the rather steep glideslope, built-up downtown, and relatively short runways.

Nsayer 22:30, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

There was a proposal in the early 1980s to have a joint use airport with Tijuana, Mexico. The proposed project was dubbed "Twin-Ports." There would have been an airport built along the border connected by taxiways to Tijuana's existing General Abelardo L. Rodríguez International Airport. The proposal was given some serious consideration, however due to the problems with illegal human and drug trafficking through the border, the idea was scrapped. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Trewells (talk • contribs) 12:51, 8 August 2006 (UTC-7)

The issue of replacing or relocating SAN will be debated until the end of time. The terrain and lack of land available makes this a moot point. Unlike cities that are located inland, it is impossible to go west because of the ocean, improbable to go south because of the mountains on approach (Brown Field in the South Bay was looked at), improbable to go east because of mountains and/or desert and improbable to go north due to lack of available land. SAN will forever be the airport for San Diego and it will always lack the ability to have regular intercontinental service because weight restrictions and noise restrictions. San Diego would be an ideal city for an alternative point for Asian service but it will never happen because of SAN's size. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Trewells (talk • contribs) 13:27, 19 July 2007 (UTC-7)

I understood Gatwick (UK) to be the world's busiest single-runway airport. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.52.215.232 (talk • contribs) 17:03, 9 December 2005 (UTC-7)

Gatwick has two runways:

http://gc.kls2.com/airport/LGW

Location City: London, Surrey, England, United Kingdom Name: Gatwick ICAO / IATA: EGKK / LGW

Details Type: Airport (Aerodrome, Airfield) Latitude: 51°08'53"N (51.148056) Longitude: 0°11'25"W (-0.190278) Datum: WGS 1984 Elevation: 202 ft (62 m) Timezone: UTC+0 (DST+1) Runways: 2 Longest: 10364 × 148 ft (3159 × 45 m) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.3.201.43 (talk • contribs) 09:49, 23 January 2007 (UTC-8)

[edit] Message to IP address 71.136.142.2

This message is for the poster with IP address 71.136.142.2. Please adhere to Wikipedia's NPOV policies with respect to your edits about Miramar dual use. Also keep in mind that Wikipedia is not a place for future speculation and opinion, and it is certainly not a place to further agendas. That said, please restrict your additions to this section to facts. Thank you.

--IRelayer 19:51, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Storage Area Network is 10**6 times more important

SAN technology is used in millions of offices and companies AROUND THE WORLD! The obscure aviators-only code of a second-tier US domestic airport does not hold a candle to it in importance. SAN should point to Storage Area network, because this is en.wikipedia.org, not us.wikipedia.org! 195.70.32.136 17:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

SAN is not an "obscure, aviators-only code" - frequent travelers around the world know and use three-letter IATA airport codes to refer to cities and airports. A Google search for SAN reveals that San Diego International Airport is the first search result. Primary topic disambiguation is clearly called for in this case. FCYTravis 23:03, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Neutrality of "Relocation proposals" section

The "Relocation proposals" section of this article, in particular the first paragraph, seems rather biased towards making a pro-new airport argument. Sources for various claims such as capacity need to be cited, and I'm not sure how "To claim otherwise is absurd" can pass for non-neutral. Tagged for POV check. -- Hawaiian717 18:16, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, you are right. It was atrocious. I removed the worst of the opinionated language and authoritative predictions of the future. The section now needs references. I removed the POV tag and replaced with with an "unreferenced" tag. Hopefully you will agree this is a step in the right direction. I'll try to help with the references when I have more time. Johntex\^talk 02:54, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

It looks much better, thanks. I'll also look and try to dig up some references. -- Hawaiian717 04:35, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Capacity References:

http://www.san.org/documents/planning/airport_planning/SDBoard_Meeting_FINAL_060704v6.pps

http://www.san.org/documents/planning/airport_planning/SAN_Aviation_Activity_Forecasts_June_04.pdf

Full Relocation Study Data:

http://www.san.org/airport_authority/archives/index.asp

Reference Floating Airport: There is no proof of such "public" interest, only that of a handful of nut jobs who offer no proof that the concept would work and are now trying to push the idea. It was fully rejected by the Airport Authroity on merits so unless they plan on building it themselves, it's not happening as the Airport Authrity is the controlling agency. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.3.201.43 (talk • contribs) 10:05, 23 January 2007 (UTC-8)

[edit] Single runway airport

London Gatwick has 2 runways, according to London Gatwick Airport--Arado 09:24, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Virgin Atlantic Service

Are we absolutly sure that Virgin Atlantic Airways will start service to San Diego in 2008. All of their aircraft are long haul wide-body aircraft and the largest plane that I know of that can land and stop at SAN effectively is the Boeing 767. Other planes however can land, but must come in at the lowest manuverable speed. So all I'm saying is, would Virgin Atlantic be able to service this airport? And London Gatwick has a maintenence runway for backup if there is an accident on the main runway. 76.88.107.42 23:13, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

No. I've tagged both Virgin Atlantic and Virgin America as needing citations. As far as larger aircraft go, the problem I've usually heard is more of an issue of being able to take off with a sufficient payload to actually make money on a long haul flight. FedEx regularly uses the DC-10 into SAN, and British Airways used to use the 747-400 (flying to and from Phoenix) and the 777-200 (nonstop to and from London; initially Gatwick and later Heathrow) into SAN. -- Hawaiian717 00:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Virgin America Service is confirmed as starting 2/12/2008 - I think someone got this confused w/ Virgin Atlantic... a search of the internet returns NO confirmation or rumor of service to KSAN... DELETED —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.239.162.58 (talk • contribs) 16:35, 9 November 2007 (UTC-8)

[edit] Top 30 Airport/2006 Records

San Diego made the 2006 list for the top 30 busiest airports in the United States, with a rank of 30. The ranking was determined by the amount of passengers that pass through the airport annually. San Diego International was ranked #1 on the list of the busiest uni-runway airports in the United States. --Press208 00:37, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

• Wikipedia is not a blog. While interesting, this info really has no place on this Talk page. Try airliners.net or some other forum. If you do think it's worth inclusion, just add to it to the article in a relevant section.Thedjb 05:06, 2 November 2007 (UTC)