Talk:Samuel Hartlib

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[edit] Gdansk vote?

Space Cadet has referenced the Gdansk vote, which says "In biographies of clearly German persons, the name should be used in the form Danzig (Gdańsk) and later Danzig exclusively". The goal of the vote and WP:NCGN is to determine how best to describe historically complex places. The Silesian town was predominantly known as Brieg in English until its transfer to Poland in 1945. Considering the phrasing of the vote and that Hartlib was a German, it makes sense to me to Brieg should be listed before Brzeg. The phrasing is done so as to present the term historically relevant to the biography (Brieg) and the modern placename (Brzeg). The university was known in English as the Albertina, the Albertinus, the University of Königsberg, Königsberg University, etc. Aside from the fact that it was an academic institution and not a place, it has not been known as the "University of Królewiec". Olessi (talk) 19:27, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I buy Brzeg, no problem, and I know the Albertina was not called "University of Królewiec" in English, but the Polish name is important for double naming of the University location. Space Cadet (talk) 21:25, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Why? We are not talking about the city Königsberg, but a university not known by the Polish name. If anything, Kaliningrad would be a more relevant name to include than Królewiec, as it is the modern name. If the IKSUR was a direct continuation of the Albertina, then I could possibly understand linking the historic university and the modern one, but it is not. Olessi (talk) 21:36, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I'll buy it for now but I think we are escaping the issue and are not consistent with applying the Gdańsk vote. Space Cadet (talk) 18:55, 17 February 2008 (UTC)