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[edit] Old talk

Please see Talk:Censorship for a suggestion of a possible article on Government suppression of literature. -- Sam

It is assumed that Bulgakov's novel was 'forbidden literature', but that may not necessarily be so. Every publication had to go through the official channels, but a novel or poem for which official publication was not sought, was not forbidden by the censors. It was not allowed by implication, but it canNOT be assumed that all self-published, Samizdat, material was submitted to and forbidden by the censors. It can be compared to today, where only one in a 1000 books written has a chance to be picked up by a publisher and those authors who do not bother to get into that queue, but self-publish instead, are not the authors of rejects. I am very much convinced that just as many of the samizdat authors did not not seek publishing approval for their work as today's authors self-publish because commercial publishing houses take on only miniscule portions of work written. 144.139.61.9 04:50, 22 August 2007 (UTC)


To comment on A rough translation would be something along the lines of "Passing on" or "Giving it amongst yourselves". :

I feel that this is quite wrong. Judging from slavic etymology, Samizdat would be quite directly traslated as "self-released" or "self-published" in a sense that self refers to sole, him/her-self and individual. Or to quote from American Heritage Dictionary: "Russian : sam, self; + izdatel'stvo, publishing house (from izdat', to publish,...)" -- Luka

Sounds like a good argument to me, particularly since 'self-published' is listed as the original translation. Can anyone who speaks Russian corroborate? Luka, would you like to edit the article to remove the incorrect statements? --Saforrest 22:16, Sep 22, 2004 (UTC)
Sounds true to me, although I'm not a native speaker of Russian. [[User:Halibutt|Halibutt]] 00:05, Sep 23, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Samizdat as meme

Mikkalai removed category:Memetics as "irrelevant", but I don't see how that is so. A samizdat publication is all about propagating ideas from person to person in a "viral" manner like a chain letter on steroids. I'm putting it back, please elabourate here if anyone wants to remove it again. Bryan 15:54, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

I am removing the memetics category from this article since you learn no more about the article's contents from the category and v.v. Since so many things may be memes we should try to keep the category closely defined in order to remain useful. Hope you're okay with that. The link to meme would be enough I suggest. Facius 11:20, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Organizations and people who predicted the collapse of the USSR

I added Samizdat to [[Category:Organizations and people who predicted the collapse of the USSR]] because of this reference, which talks about organizations and people who predicted the Soviet Union would collapse:

Various essays published in samizdat in the early 1970s were on similar lines, some quite specifically predicting the end of the Soviet empire.

Laqueur, Walter (1996). The Dream that Failed : Reflections on the Soviet Union. USA: Oxford University Press. ISBN: 0195102827.  p. 188

Signed:Travb 14:41, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Related discussion

Please see Talk:Underground_press#Undeground_press_in_other_contexts.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  00:11, 21 October 2006 (UTC)