Talk:Same-sex marriage and procreation
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[edit] Merger proposal
[edit] No Merge
As someone who has authored much of Same-sex marriage and procreation, my thoughts are for no merging at this time. First, the wikipages are already quite lengthy (13 and 16 pages each, with more additions to the procreation page in the future). Since there is little overlap, merging effectively means combining, so in time the combined page will be quite lengthy, for which I assume there is another Wiki rule. Second, there are other pages dealing with same-sex marriage that have not been merged in (probably for similar reasons): Status of same-sex marriage and Timeline of same-sex marriage. This page then is the equivalent of "Procreation aspects of same-sex marriage". Maybe the same-sex marriage page itself should be broken up, with the primary page being more of an index to all of the other pages and sub-pages.
Third, keeping the two pages separate - no merge - is consistent with the current handling of the procreation issue by many opponents and supporters of same-sex marriage. Visit such Web sites, and there is very little mention of procreation (see, for example, the same-sex marriage pages at the Web site of the National Center for Lesbian Rights), despite the issue being a strong undercurrent in the debates (and used by multiple courts to block same-sex marriage). For example, the word "procreation" does not appear in the Contents section (i.e., in any of the section headers) of the Same-sex marriage page, but rather the issue is included under the "Children" section, despite many legal aspects of the use of the procreation issue having little to do with the procreated children themselves. And there is even less mention of a growing scientific effort to achieve human same-sex procreation, for example, the creation of human female sperm. In general, the procreation issue has been somewhat orphaned by supporters and opponents. Having its own Wikipage seems consistent with that status. No merge. --Greg Aharonian (talk) 15:54, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with Greg Aharonian. Greatings. Antaya (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 06:58, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Me too. This page deals with a specialised legal issue in considerable detail. To include this leevl of detail on the Same sex marriage page would unbalance that page. A summary of these issues should be added to the main page (a new Controversy subsection) with a link to this pageFilceolaire (talk) 20:57, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Definitely no merge. One is more political, one is more cultural. Afterall, marriage and procreation in general do not share a page! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.34.102.192 (talk) 10:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
No merge —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.23.21.93 (talk) 21:55, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Legality of SSP
Hello Greg, thanks for creating this entry and your efforts to publicize SSP. I'm the author of www.eggandsperm.org, created in 2004 after Kaguya's birth, in opposition to the development of same-sex procreation and other forms of reproduction that do not combine a man's sperm and a woman's egg. This is my first stab at wiki editing so bear with me please. I'm happy to see the arguments you are making in favor of same-sex procreation, but i'd like to make sure that the ethical objections (which are a cross of most of the arguments against SSM and genetic engineering) get their due here. I've added a link to my site, and a section on the legality. I might be wrong about Missouri being the only state with a man-woman critereon in their anti-cloning law, I guess I can research that further or maybe others can help verify that? John Howard (MA) (talk) 18:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
