Talk:Salomon Morel

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Contents 1 Anti-german 2 Family? 3 Category 4 Auschwitz? 5 John Sack, An Eye for an Eye: The Story of Jews Who Sought Revenge for the Holocaust,

[edit] Anti-german

What does this person have to do with the current anti-fascist ideology of anti-Germans that is not to be confused with anti-German sentiment? Andries 20:37, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Nothing. But he would probably qualify for one of their idols. --87.160.254.8 22:39, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Family?

I believe that the article should be edited, because several informations are repeated. What happened to Morel's family during the war? Xx236 15:11, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

and what happened to Hitler's family, as if jewish criminals are better than nazi criminals

who gives a damn, a criminal is a criminal

[edit] Category

Should he be in the Category:War criminals or not? He is accused of being a war criminal by Poland; Isreal apparently doesn't agree, and he himself obviously doesn't want to face trial (and probably never will).--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 17:58, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I'd say if he's never been convicted, he doesn't belong. Even Adolf Hitler doesn't make the list. Sherurcij ^{(talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject)} 18:04, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

What if someone is convicted in absentia? Perhaps we should have a separate category for such individuals.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 18:21, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Well if they were convicted in absentia, I'd probably still be inclined to count that as a conviction. But again, that's just my opinion Sherurcij ^{(talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject)} 18:23, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

War criminal after the war? Strange. Xx236 15:54, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Febr.-Nov. 1945 ! --172.177.188.17 23:13, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Auschwitz?

Some sources like this mention he was imprisoned in Auschwitz. Others deny this or don't mention this at all. How should we address it? From the available sources I think the most 'serious' is the IPN bio, and it doesn't say a word about Auschwitz.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 23:59, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

It seems clear that he wasn't in Auschwitz. If he were he wouldn't be able to join partisans and go to USSR. I mean how likely it is that he would be able to leave Auschwitz if he were imprisoned there?--SylwiaS | talk 09:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes. There is also the version that 'his family was in Auschwitz'.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 16:20, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Sack, An Eye for an Eye: The Story of Jews Who Sought Revenge for the Holocaust,

This book is POV, this shouldn't be in a reference.

Please cite your sources for such accusation. Nothing in John Sack article indicates he has been discredited, and being controversial is not a valid objection.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 22:52, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

According to a number of sources, including the Montreal Gazette and the British Telegraph, Morel himself was at one point an inmate in Auschwitz, and over 30 of his relatives were killed in the Holocaust, though this is not listed in the IPN report. (Montreal Gazette, January 2, 2005, p A8)

Can 'Montreal Gazette' be a source of information, shouldn't be given their sources? What are the mysterious 'number of sources'?

--Nowis 05:51, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

This was discussed above. An academic institution like IPN is much more trustworthy then a newspaper.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 06:47, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

I know from a lot of former german Soldiers and German Civilians that generally Camps with German Soldier and Civilian Inmates where often given in Command to jews by the Udssr autorities so that the reason for the horrible conditions in this camps are mainly and outcome of a cynical communist politic twords the Germans.( Eyvitnes of a camp close to Königsberg - Kaliningrad) But in the US and English army too there was but a blinde eye on such atrothities when jewish people where involved. I know a case because my father was the victim luckaly he survived. That was in 1945 around the Rhine bordering the netherlands ( Goch) where an austrian jewish US-Soldier killed serv eral soldiers during investigations. I dond think that this stories will ever come to the public opinion. In my view the crime was done by thos officers witch but this man in the power to do such things. Johann