Talk:Sadcore

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I thought we should bring this page back as a seperate entry. Whereas "slowcore" is arguably an emerging subgenre, the use of "sadcore" is more limited but is of interest for different reasons. I could not find any strong justification for redirecting this page in the first place.

I have maintained the removal of any history of sadcores stylistic origins as it is not a typical sound that has formally evolved per se and no artists are drawing lines from themselves to earlier acts mentioned previously such as The Smiths or Red House Painters etc. I have tried to keep the new text limited to the references only.

I have removed the whole of the "artists considered to be sadcore" section as it was not overly helpful and did not contain any references. Originally it was too brief and so people were objecting to the absence of their favourite artist. The compromise was that the list then became too long with too many minor artists far better categorised elsewhere. None of the entries had any justification in terms of references and so "considered to be" breached NPOV.

But... if we are bringing it back, it should start with Shannon Wright because she is a god :)

(Silverwood (talk) 15:34, 16 January 2008 (UTC))

I think a lot of this article is opinion-based. Things such as "The term is an example of the increasingly ironic use of the suffix "-core"." and "More often than not, usage of the term is confined to a rejection of the kind of sub-sub-genre categorisation that it may well have been coined to subvert." I've heard plenty of people use the term "sadcore" unironically to talk about bands like Idaho, Red House Painters and Rivulets. I also think the usage of the rambling, opinionated everything2 page to justify a strange conclusion doesn't really do much to help anyone understand what the hell "sadcore" is. --129.79.38.18 (talk) 21:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

I do agree with the above post. There was too much POV in my first version and musing on the ironic or otherwise usage is a marginal point not suitable for wikipedia. We need to find some decent quality original material to draw from though, as hearing the term being used around in a scene is not enough. The trouble with "sadcore" is that right now it's formal usage is quite tenuous and sources are lacking but the term is common enough shorthand to warrant its own entry. If anyone has any good research-based info, lets get it up here before someone just deletes the page again or incorporates it into slowcore. Silverwood (talk) 12:35, 15 February 2008 (UTC)