Talk:Sacred Military Constantinian Order of Saint George
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I recommend this stub as a candidate for speedy deletion. There are hundreds of these social clubs claiming descent from everyone since Adam (altho they might more properly claim descent from Lucy!) masquerading as genealogical societies or military orders: they have nothing to do with either. Doubtless they would all like their group listed in Wikipedia for their own glory.
If this group is worthy of note, then I recommend that it be added to its entry under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_chivalry although I frankly believe that this page too is a mistake.
Orders of knighthood should be listed by country and by the monarch who created and maintains them. Certainly, Britain's Queen Elizabeth maintains an order of knighthood for those deemed worthy of inclusion. But membership is by order of the Queen, not by membership application and all such individuals are already public figures, such as Sir Sean Connery. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Connery
I further recommend that a disambiguation article be written on pseudo-genealogical social clubs to distinguish them from real genealogical groups (such as the New England Genealogical Society), and to distinguish these pseudo-military orders from real military orders (such as the US Army Rangers). Wikipedia should expect that these pseudo-military orders will seek Wikipedia entries again and again. Seeking such a listing goes along with the feelings of inferiority that leads those who belong to these clubs to seek to prove their genealogy so as to gain admission to their little social club. ````
The above unsigned comment is rife with factual errors:
1) The Sacred Military Constantinian Order is not a "social club".
2) The US Army Rangers is not a "military order". It is a military unit.
3) The SMCO is not a genealogical ("pseudo" or otherwise) group. It does not require proof of geneaology for admission in the categories of grace or merit (or even in some instances in the category of justice.)
4) "Feelings of inferiority..." etc. is an ad hominem attack, and is not a proveable or quantifiable statement.
5) The author of the above comment does not appear to be entirely familiar with what an Order of Chivalry is. He/she mentions that Queen Elizabeth II maintains "an order" of knighthood. She "maintains" several different orders. His acceptance of her "order of knighthood" (sic) contradicts his belief that the article of the same name is a "mistake".
6) This Order of Chivalry was founded by a reigning monarch, and is maintained by his legitimate successor. The rights of deposed, non-abdicating monarchs to their heritable properties, including their chivalric orders, are protected by international law, beginning with the Congress of Vienna
71.85.151.177 (talk) 05:51, 19 January 2008 (UTC)Chevalier3
[edit] This article may need checking
Guy Stair Sainty has edited this article much and he has authored very pro-Infante Carlos articles outside of Wikipedia, so his contributions should be reviewed. - Gennarous (talk) 18:40, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
