Talk:Sacrament of Penance (Catholic Church)

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[edit] Penance

Canon Law calls the sacrament "The Sacrament of Penance" (Cann. 959 - 997). The Catechism of the Catholic Church calls it the "sacrament of Penance" (1422). Based on those 2 reliable sources, I think the article should be titled "Sacrament of Penance (Catholic Church). Comments? Andy120 17:39, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

I've moved the article to "Sacrament of Penance (Catholic Church) and fixed double redirects from other articles. I've also edited the article to show the name of the Sacrament as Penance. ...Andy120... 03:57, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Validity and frequency

I added a couple of footnotes to validity. As to frequency, I deleted the NPOV comment about whether or not people do/don't go frequently enough and whether or not it is ignored. The problem is not only does the Church not address this by saying "YOU" need to go to confession, but it misrepresents the doctrine. The requirement is to go to communion once per year -- confession is only required if during that last year a person committed a mortal sin. Further, the doctrine would call for them to go sooner rather than later.DaveTroy 17:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

As to required frequency, the Church acutally does require confession once a year. See CCC 2042 or the second precept of the Church. --Entoaggie09 03:12, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Only applies to Roman Catholics though. Eastern Catholics aren't bound by that. InfernoXV 04:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

So something to that effect could be added as long as it specifies that it is used by the Latin rite, correct? --Entoaggie09 05:06, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

I would find that eminently acceptable. InfernoXV 06:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Entoaggie, remember that the 2nd Precept is also presuming a mortal sin. The purpose of the sacrament was (is) to allow communion, the more important act of union with the Church, which the Sacrament of Penance heals. Therefore if there is no mortal sin, there is no objective "need" to go to Penance prior to receiving sacramental communion.DaveTroy 15:34, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

CCC 2042, to which Entoaggie09 refers, has a footnote referencing the Code of Canon Law. Canon 989 reads: "After having reached the age of discretion, each member of the faithful is obliged to confess faithfully his or her grave sins at least once a year." Canon 988.2 reads: "It is recommended to the Christian faithful that they also confess venial sins." (The emphasis is mine.) --Faylei 19:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Code of Canon Law and Latern Council

My Dear Wikipedians:

There is an error on the page, I'm not sure how to fix it w/o losing a link. While the the Latern Council of 1215 did in fact happen, and did address penance, IT DIDN"T have anything to do witht he Code of Canon Law (which wouldn't come out for another 500 years). I think you're looking for the "Corpus Iuris Canonici" which isn't a code and wasn't a singe thing -- it was a collection of laws/decrees etc. If someone could fix the link I'm probably about to butcher I'd be most grateful.

DaveTroy —Preceding unsigned comment added by DaveTroy (talk • contribs) 16:41, 2 December 2007 (UTC)