Talk:Sabrina Statue

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[edit] Copy and Paste Notice

This article was not copied and pasted from another source - the information was written by me, and drawn from the sources listed in the bibliography. Thus, I have removed the "copy and paste" notice. Please let me know if there's anything else I need to do to prove the originality of this article. Amherstsabrina (talk) 15:18, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I "wikified" this article, and removed the wikify tag. 148.85.192.103 (talk) 19:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Incomplete

Who's the sculptor? Where's the original statue? At the River Severn in the UK? See [1]... See also [2]. Here is a CC-BY image of the Roosevelt Island copy. Maybe you should expand the scope of this article, after all, the Amherst Sabrina is just one copy of many. Lupo 15:41, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

The Amherst College Sabrina is, in fact, the original. The statue which sits at Roosevelt Island was a replica made by Amherst graduate (class of 1980), Bruce Becker -- here is a quotation from an Amherst Student article from 2007: "Becker considers the Sabrina image beautiful and has installed replicas at his projects to share her tradition and splendor. Among the sites Sabrina replicas appear are the Octagon housing development on Roosevelt Island, New York City and The Mervin, a senior citizen housing project in Norwalk, Conn., where men who have lost their wives have begun to develop "emotional bonds" with her, according to Becker." [Josh Glasser, "Cast in Bronze, Sabrina Lives On," Amherst Student (2007)]

But in this blog, Becker is reported to have stated to only have recast the statue: "The castings were made from a mold of 19th Century casting I locating [sic] in Rochester Vermont that was in perfect condition." Hence he's not the sculptor. Who made that mould? William Calder Marshall? And how come it ended up at Rochester? Lupo 21:31, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Take a look at item 245 in this catalog. That's a porcelain version of Marshall's Sabrina. Looks the same, doesn't it? See also this 1860 exhibit record. Lupo 21:47, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] General Notability Guidelines

I have removed the "General Notability Guidelines" tag, because I believe that the Sabrina Statue meets Wikipedia's general notability guidelines. The pranks surrounding the Sabrina Statue constitute the most significant tradition at Amherst College - a tradition which dates to the mid nineteenth century, and continues to the present. A scholarly article, as well as an extensive history (whose authenticity has been verified by a New York Times article - see the NY times article cited in the page's bibliography), as well as a number of articles published by Amherst College's independent newspaper, verify this assertion. See also this article on the Time webpage: [[3]].

As further evidence of Sabrina's long tradition at Amherst, see [this Five College Archive page, documenting an entire box of Sabrina-related documents].

If the statue's notability needs to be further established, please say what documentation would be required to demonstrate this.

Amherstsabrina (talk) 19:58, 8 May 2008 (UTC)