Talk:SABC3's Great South Africans

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The full list is on List of South Africans--Jcw69 12:54, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

I am merging this article with the content that deals with the Great South African contest that was on the List of South Africans. See Talk:List of South Africans --Jcw69 07:05, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Final location of the list

I have move this page from Great South Africans to SABC3's Great South Africans so that it is clear exactly what is contained in this list, and to clearly show that the list does in no way, shape, or form represent the views of ALL South Africans, only those who participated in the poll of this Television Show. --Wiz9999 05:19, 25 January 2006 (UTC)


"Gregorydavid moved SABC3's Great South Africans to SABC3's Great South Africans, 2004: this is to put the list in proper chronological context."

I disagree with this move entirely, it is not necessary to put the date of the list's creation in the title, it is clearly stated in the text. I have moved it back to SABC3's Great South Africans. --Wiz9999 02:10, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nelson Mandela

Can anyone confirm that Nelson Mandela was actually named as the no.1? I'm just a bit surprised because I thought the idea of these shows was to count down in the lists until you reach number 1. Okay, admittedly in this case it doesn't take a genius to figure out Nelson would be number 1 but can someone confirm when it was confirmed (if it were confirmed)? Nil Einne 10:19, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Well, the external link on the BBC web site says Mandela was #1, but it also disagrees with this article on some of the other rankings. For example, the BBC page says Gary Player was #2 and Gandhi #3, whereas this Wikipedia page says Player was #8 and Gandhi #4. The Wikipedia page also says that ranks 2 through 10 were ultimately undetermined as to the order among those nine people, but I don't know what source we have to confirm that, nor why those nine people are ranked here anyway. --Metropolitan90 15:22, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Isn't Mahatma gandhi Indian?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Venkatesh.nandakumar (talk • contribs)

  • Of course Gandhi was Indian, but he did spend 21 years living in South Africa. There are a lot of criticisms one could make about this list, but the inclusion of Gandhi is not a problem in my opinion. --Metropolitan90 02:24, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
  • and he's called father of the nation, here in india.. Venkatesh N 11:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sabotage

This page has been sabotaged by some pro aparthied people before, and needs to be watched closely. Mindstar 23:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I've removed the phrase "now notorious" from before Jacob Zuma's name - but Gregorydavid reverted it. If you want to justify how that's not slander, feel free to talk or reference - please don't just revert changes with no comment. --HiltonLange (talk) 06:23, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

The fact that Zuma has suddenly become more popular does not mean that he has never been notorious.Gregorydavid (talk) 15:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Being notorious

Plugging the recent discussion above under Sabotage is inappropriate as it has nothing to do with Apartheid or Sabotage. Even Gary Player is notorius in some quarters for statements made in his books.Gregorydavid (talk) 03:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough, I was just trying to re-use a section, perhaps it wasn't entirely appropriate. Considering that he has enjoyed popular support since before 1994, I don't agree that "notorious" would describe him at any stage (yet?) of his career, except in the eyes of a minority. Neutral_point_of_view#Undue_weight suggests representing the majority view, and since this is just a reference to him, I don't think any adjectives are really appropriate. --HiltonLange (talk) 05:02, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
In fact I agree with you. He was probably described as notorious soon after he fell from grace and lost his position as Deputy State President of South Africa.Gregorydavid (talk) 07:09, 30 November 2007 (UTC)