Talk:Saab 9-5

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[edit] Trivia removal

While agreeing that there was to much stuff in this section, that was recently removed, I ask could it be that the safety award details, based on actual crash analyses, might be important information? - Ballista 05:54, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

This discussion carries over into many of the other Saab vehicles, and other vehicles at large I'm guessing. I propose that it it is in fact important. It's not bragging, it's part of the history of the car. If the idea is to list the information about the car, this is pertinent information. How do we define that awards are trivia? It can be cited.Viscouse 21:02, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

I know it is hard, and I often oppose such arbitrary selections otherwise, but I would recommend selecting the really most important awards and not mentioning ALL of them. For example, the European COTY title (if the 9-5 got it), would be very relevant, but winning the Winnipeg Tribune March 2002 Premium Smaller Midsize Sedan From Sweden Award would not be ;) Perhaps there is a comprehensive list of awards and other recognition the 9-5 got somewhere in the net, and I would recommend linking to it from external links rather than listing them in the article, which is btw otherwise skimpy at the moment. I would also try to infer some general conclusions as to the awards (trying not to break into OR) and put them in the article, rather than simply listing the awards, which does not provide a layman with much insight. Bravada, talk - 22:10, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree that there should be selective inclusion, with some short explanation of each chosen (presumably important) entry. - Ballista 04:31, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

That being said, to end the being edited over & over as different folks decide which awards are trivial & which aren't, is there any templates that discern what level of award is pertinent? I like the idea of linking to awards, but do feel that relevant ones should be included in the article itself. How does one judge the merit of an award? Gov't level awards only (excludes important IIHS), awards listed by the vehicle manufacturer? (hard to keep updated). I think this methodology needs to be determined, and posted so others know which to include/disclude. -Viscouse 14:21, 25 September 2006 (UTC)