Talk:Russell Conwell
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[edit] Cite sources
I expanded the material using the external link http://www.temple.edu/about/temples_founder.html and facts from page 214 of volume 6 of the American People's Encylcopedia of 1963. RJFJR 15:30, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Merge pages
I think that the page Acres of Diamonds should be merged with this one. Both articles are stubs and it seems a little superfluous to have the two articles on separate pages. Any thoughts? I have also added an image of Russell Conwell to this article.The SG 20:58, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
- Makes sense to me -- I did the merge. If in the future someone has a great deal of information to add about "Acres of Diamonds," the two pages can be split again. -- phoebe (brassratgirl) /(talk) 21:42, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Story of Johnning Ring
The version on this page does not match what I was previously told about Johnny Ring, Russell Conwell, and the Captain's Sword. I seem to remember that Russell Conwell considered himself an aetheist prior to the Civil War. However, he did not become a Christian until he himself was injured in the war. Also, Johnny Ring died in a fire as he tried to save the Captain's Sword. I do not want to edit anything posted by anyone else. Teachrn 22:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)TEACHRN
[edit] Removal of source
The statement that Conwell was inducted into Chinese Freemasonry was backed by this source. Unfortunately, the source is a letter to the Editor of Time Magazine by someone named Edward M. Taggart of East Orange, N. J. ... letters to the editor are not considered reliable sources. We have no idea who Mr. Taggart is, or if he knows what he is talking about or not.
I have had to delete this unreliable source twice... Fred.e reverted my first deletion with the edit summary: "Letter refers to article in time. He was in the chinese lodge. Prove otherwise please"... Fred, that's not how Wikipedia works. If you want to add a statement to an article, you have to provide a reliable source for it. The source you reverted isn't considered reliable. It is obvious from Mr. Taggert's letter that while the Time article being referred to discusses Chinese Masonry, it does not mention Russel Conwell (Mr. Taggert would not have had to point out that Conwell was a Chinese Mason if the original article had done so), so that is not a reliable source. Mr. Taggert's letter itself is not considered reliable under WP:RS and WP:V either. Thus, another source needs to be found to back up the statement that Conwell was a Chinese Mason.
Note that I am not challenging whether Conwell was or was not initiated into Chinese Masonry... For all I know (or care) he was. That's why I didn't remove the statement. I am simply objecting to the source that was used to back the statement, since it does not comply with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. I am simply requesting that another source be located and used instead.
Finally, even if I did doubt that Conwell was a Chinese Mason, I would not have to "prove otherwise'... it is up to those who add information to back the statements up with citations to reliable sources. It isn't up to those who want to remove improperly sourced information to "prove otherwise". Blueboar 16:25, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
