Talk:Rugby-Birmingham-Stafford Line

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Info The route diagram template for this article can be found in Template:RBS-Line.

Quick question, surely this might be known as the more succinct "west midlands loop" or something ??? Pickle 16:36, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

This would imply that its main purpose is as an alternative to the WCML. However, I feel it is a line in its own right, with a variety of local services. The engineering line reference (official usage used by Network Rail) is RBS - standing for Rugby-Birmingham-Stafford, therefore I thought this was an appropriate title. It also conforms to other articles. — Tivedshambo (talk) 16:51, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
OK makes sense ;) Pickle 17:13, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
Similarly, the new footbridge at Wolverhampton station has a sign (obviously denoting the number of bridge or something) that says RBS. Worley-d 20:57, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Map alterations

I don't have time to do them at the moment, but I'd suggest the following tweaks to the map:

  • I don't think the A5 or A38 should go on - if we set a precident for A roads there'll be so many bridges there won't be room for anything else. Just show motorways.
  • The Cross-City line should diverge above-left of New Street towards Redditch.
  • The Coventry-Leamington Spa line should diverge below left of Coventry.
  • There are three tunnels on the line - one either side of New Street, plus Beechwood tunnel between Berkswell and Tile Hill.
  • The Birmingham-Kidderminster line goes over the top at Smethwick Galton Bridge.

 – Tivedshambo (talk) 21:58, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I believe that only big A roads (ie not quite motorways) should be included (unless notable otherwise), there is also another road bridge icon which doesn't imply a huge motorway. Pickle 22:24, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article name

I'm concerned about the name of this article: does anyone actually call it the "Rugby-Birmingham-Stafford line"? Isn't generally thought of as part of the West Coast Main Line? Apart from the line diagram, couldn't the content be merged with the WCML article? That article is crying for improvement as it stands, with all its lists and tables of insignificant information. --RFBailey (talk) 23:37, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

My view is that it's better to have localised branches and loops of the WCML (such as Northampton Loop Line as separate articles, with West Coast Main Line providing an overview of the whole route. I agree both articles need improving, but merging them together would just lead to one even longer straggly article. The article title has been discussed above - if you can come up with a better alternative, I'd be happy to go along with it. Rugby to Stafford via Birmingham Line would follow the pattern set by Birmingham to Worcester via Kidderminster Line, etc. – Tivedshambo (talk) 08:57, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
The point is, it's still a name we've made up. Is someone going to search for "Rugby-Birmingham-Stafford line" or "Rugby to Stafford via Birmingham line"? --RFBailey (talk) 17:49, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Probably not directly, but there are other ways of reaching articles. There are plenty of Links to the article. I've just created Birmingham Loop Line as a redirect as it's a possible search. I don't know if you think any other name would be better. – Tivedshambo (talk) 00:18, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
RFBailey: This line is officially (by Network Rail) called the Rugby-Birmingham-Stafford Line. Surely we are approaching wikipedia in making it as official as possible? Worley-d (talk) 01:36, 15 December 2007 (UTC)