User:Rschen7754/Arbcom

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Contents 1 Evidence presented by Rschen7754 1.1 NE2 has refused to listen to consensus 1.2 The "walled garden" has been brought to our attention 1.3 Attempts have been made to resolve the "walled garden issue" 1.4 The core of the problem is NE2 refusing to listen to consensus 1.5 Anybody can join IRC 1.6 Harassment has not taken place on IRC 1.7 My page protection was neutral

[edit] Evidence presented by Rschen7754

[edit] NE2 has refused to listen to consensus

• NE2 has reverted mainspace many times
• NE2 has revert warred in projectspace...
• despite consensus
• NE2 has said he is willing to ignore consensus and be a disruption
• He has indicated that he fears that he would lose mediation, and thus refuses it
• At this discussion...
• editors gave in to NE2's opinion since they were tired of fighting
• WP:RFAR/HWY section 7.2.3 - SPUI held a similar attitude during the last highway arbitration case, and this was frowned upon

[edit] The "walled garden" has been brought to our attention

• Krimpet coined the phrase "walled garden"

[edit] Attempts have been made to resolve the "walled garden issue"

• Apologies were posted to individual USRD users by me
• Since then, many, many discussions have taken place at WT:USRD
• During recent weeks, the phrase "Consensus debates must take place on wiki" has been in the topic.

[edit] The core of the problem is NE2 refusing to listen to consensus

• No walled garden tactics took place; this was discussed and NE2 did not listen to consensus
• This continued here
• Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/NE2 3#Close: The concern that NE2 would not listen to consensus again was discussed, by a user that logged in to IRC once, months ago (User:Holderca1)
• Holderca1 nearly left around September 1 2007
• This was likely due to NE2

[edit] Anybody can join IRC

• User:FloNight has joined the #wikipedia-en-roads channel at IRC.
• The only users blocked from the roads channel are Shel2476 and SPUI. Shel2476 kept popping in and out of the room within the same minute without saying anything, and this was termed disruptive. SPUI began to interfere with the programming of route_bot and was subsequently banned.
• WP:HWY/IRC exists
• I said that nothing prevents NE2 from joining IRC

[edit] Harassment has not taken place on IRC

• Unfortunately there is a "no public logging" policy on IRC.
• A few users have become upset with O because he has done a few actions against a few people in USRD that could be considered offensive - nothing that is punishable on Wikipedia, but could be considered unethical.
• However, this was not harassment.
• If debates and arguing can be considered harassment, then this will seriously limit the effectiveness of IRC.

[edit] My page protection was neutral

• NE2 said so
• [1][2] Neither of the edit warriors' versions were the same as mine
• User:Pomte supported me
• If I had not protected, the edit war would have continued, and there may be 3RR violations.
• This may not adhere to the letter of the protection policy but does adhere to the spirit of the protection policy.
• NE2 says Will Beback may have been rules lawyering
• I have been an administrator for over 2 3/4 years
• Rschen7754 (talk • contribs • blocks • protects • deletions • moves • rights) - I stand by my record as an administrator for over 2 3/4 years