Talk:Royal Warrant

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I am not sure the link to the Imperial Mark Commission's website should be there. It is not relevant to the topic. User:DavidFarmbrough 08:12 (BST) 19 May 2005

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[edit] Is this statement correct

Underneath the coat of arms will usually appear the phrase "By Appointment to..." followed by the title and name of the supplier, and then what goods are provided.

I think this is wrong. It should say "By Appointment to.... the customer " ( that is, the queen, prince, etc, not the supplier) Eregli bob 12:30, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cigarettes

Someone down the pub (woo, stereotypical shaggy dog story intro) tried to convince me that the royal warrants were taken off all cigarette providers recently. Now, I seem to remember Benson & Hedges and Rothmans having warrant marks at some stage or another. But a look at the Royal Warrant Holders Association page shows neither Gallaher/Philip Morris (joint owners of B&H) in the listings, for instance.

Is this true, or were they warrants issued by now-deceased members of the royal family, or have otherwise lapsed 'naturally' rather than being stripped? Or were the fag makers just putting shiny logos on boxes.... --Kiand 23:42, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Quick usenet search found a message saying Gallaher lost their warrant from the Queen in August 1999. Did she give up or something :p . Any other info could be useful, if they've been removed across the board it'd definately be worth mentioning in the article. --Kiand 23:46, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
I think the Royal Household used to buy cigarettes for guests. It was formerly common to offer them, especially at diplomatic functions. The warrant was not likely to have been removed due to laspe of useage, more likely as it was felt inappropriate to be seen to endorse cigarette companies. B & H As I unserstand it now use a pretend coat of arms in place of the Royal Warrant. DavidFarmbrough 08:16, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Missing Company

Is there a reason Spink is not listed here ? They appear to have Three Royal Warrants. (http://www.spink.com/home_page/index.asp) (LordFenix 21:06, 2 February 2006 (UTC))

Spink is in the list but has no Wikipedia article. Any Offers :) User:Barlinerchat 16:03, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other types of Royal Warrants

Isn't a Royal Warrant granted to suppliers of good and services (in the UK) merely but one form of Royal Warrant? Doesn't the term embrace a more general type of document, and, if so, should this point be made at the start of this article? I ask this because I see that in the Queen's Scout article, it is noted that Queens Scouts are made under Royal Warrant from the Queen. I am almost certain that this, if true, would mean that there is at least one present useage of Royal Warrants that is not connected with the supply of goods and services to members of the Royal Family.

I agree - aren't Senior NCO's in the UK and some Commonwealth armed forces also 'warranted' hence the royal coat of arms worn on the sleeve? For example: Regimental Sergeant Major (Warrant Officer Class 1) Andywebby 23:51, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
I believe "Royal Warrant" is currently used only for the kind of warrant this article is about (see [1] for example). Other "Royal Warrants" are, strictly speaking, Letters Patent. FiggyBee 19:49, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
The Queen orders letters patent be passed by means of a royal warrant see London Gazette Archive User:Barlinerchat 17:15, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Split countries

I think the non-UK lists should be split off, as they are not referred to in the introduction to the article. 193.95.165.190 11:27, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

No. As the other countries are little more than lists, it is better to rewrite the intro. to show the The UK is not the only issuer of these royal warrants. User:Barlinerchat 14:07, 18 July 2007 (UTC)