Talk:Royal Philharmonic Orchestra

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[edit] "Royal" in the title

My understanding is that an organisation is not permitted to simply call itself "Royal". This requires permission from Buckingham Palace. Permission would normally be given only to well-established organisations, ones that have proved by their activities that they would be extremely unlikely to ever bring the monarchy into disrepute. I'm not saying Beecham's newly founded orchestra would ever have been guilty of that, but it was only a fledgling orchestra in 1946 and had not yet established its credentials (other than being associated with Beecham). My assumption is that, when Beecham founded the orchestra in 1946, it was called something else (possibly just the "Philharmonic Orchestra"), and the "Royal" part of the title was added some time later. The website says nothing about this. Can anyone clarify the sequence of events, and under what circumstances approval was given to the use of the word "Royal"? JackofOz 04:23, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I've tracked some information down - [1]. According to this, it stems from the orchestra's association with the Royal Philharmonic Society. This was founded in 1813 as the "Philharmonic Society". A century later it was granted a royal charter by King George V, making it the Royal Philharmonic Society (= RPS). .... Thomas Beecham returned to Britain in 1944 and formed a new orchestra, giving its first concert at the Davis Theatre in Croydon on September 15, 1946, just three weeks after Thomas Beecham started hiring musicians. Again, he placed the new orchestra under the RPS rubric, enabling it to take the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra name. So there we are. -- JackofOz (talk) 10:57, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Royal Choral Society

No mention of the Royal Choral Society is made in the article, yet the Royal Choral Society article says they are associated entities. Can someone please clarify? -- Ssilvers 19:10, 19 June 2007 (UTC)