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[edit] Broadcasting: Charming or Annoying

The section on his broadcasting career doesn't site any sources except one to prove that he is in fact the color man for Cubs Radio. I think all of the stuff about his charming sense of humor should be taken out because in real life, he's totally annoying as an anouncer. Whatever you think of his "sense of humor" it doesn't seem appropriate for an encyclopedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.146.85.116 (talk) 22:55, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree that his "charming sense of humor" should be removed, even though I completely agree with it -- whether you find Santo "totally annoying" or "charming and lovable" is obviously a matter of taste. He is, however, indisputably very popular among Cubs fans worldwide. Tempest67 02:05, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
Whatever people feel about Ron, annoying or charming, that statement is one, an opinion, and two, unsourced. Two large reasons to get rid of the section. If you want to talk about his style, i.e. the grumbling and the rambling and the forgetfulness, link to news stories and audiofiles don't just put your opinion in. - 66.104.45.194 (talk · contribs) 19:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Instead of just removing it you could find some references on both sides and add them as quoted citations that some people find him charming and some find him annoying. Have a balanced 50/50, equally weighted, section. Just deleting content, especially from an IP address, without other constructive edits makes you appear to be a vandal and gives you very little credibility with contributors who login and spend countless hours making constructive, quality, edits. ~ WikiDon (talk) 20:12, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hall of Fame

This guy should get into the Hall of Fame - (CFIF 22:20, Jun 7, 2005 (UTC))

Hands Down, #10 Ron Santo belongs in the hall of fame. He played the game the right way. I'd be happy to walk my children through the exhibits in Canton and tell them about Ron Santo. - User:192.122.250.250 01:09, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Or maybe Cooperstown. d:) Wahkeenah 01:36, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
He might belong in Canton, not sure what he did for football, but he definetly DOES NOT belong in Cooperstown. .277 AVG is nowhere near Hall-Worthy, unless you smack 500-HRs. Lets compare his #'s to someone still playing: Derek Jeter.
Santo
G AB H 2B 3B HR R RBI SB AVG
2,243 8,143 2,254 365 67 342 1,138 1,331 35 .277
Jeter
G AB H 2B 3B HR R RBI SB AVG
1,679 6,790 2,150 347 50 183 1,277 860 249 .317
For someone with under 500 HR's you need JETER numbers to get in the hall!!! Other than HR's Jeter will have passed Santo in every stat by the time he reaches 15 years. Also, these are Jeter's Post-season stats, sorry Ron another thing keeping him from the Hall is the fact that if he make's it his team would have multiple HOF'rs, but 0 Postseason appearances.
Jeter Postseason:
G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI AVG SB
119 478 85 150 22 3 17 48 .314 16
No Hall for Santo, character CAN keep you outta the Hall, but it should NEVER get you in. You must have the #'s and he falls short in HR,HITS,SB, and AVG......... He may get in as an announcer though. (Best in the buisiness) - 24.136.215.85 (talk · contribs) 19:47, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Club" stats

As someone who thinks Santo obviously belongs in the HOF, I've removed the silly comparison to Mike Schmidt: yes, they're the only two to have 300 HR and 5 Gold Gloves, but Schmidt's having a batting average 10 points below Santo's "in an era noted for weaker pitching" smells of non-NPOV, given Schmidt's other 5 Gold Gloves, his 200+ homers beyond Santo's, and his never having called the Friendly Confines his home park. (No need to mention Schmidt's 3 MVPs, so I won't. Well, not a lot.) Santo was far too good a player to require bogus comparisons like the "300-homers-and-5-third-base-gold-gloves-club" stuff. He was the real deal, and doesn't need anybody ragging on Mike Schmidt for him. RogerLustig 03:29, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

If Chick Hafey belongs in the Hall, Ronnie certainly does. You're right that comparing Schmidt with Santo is silly. It's like comparing Ty Cobb with... well, Chick Hafey. Wahkeenah 03:52, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Retired Numbers

Ryne Sandberg has also had his number retired by the Cubs, but this article does not mention that. Only that three previous players have had said honor. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.197.19.242 (talk) 19:55, 26 April 2007 (UTC).