Talk:Ron Hextall

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I kinda feel like "perfected" is a strong word to use to describe Rick DiPietro..., anyone else think that just Brodeur can suffice? -Benthorot

→I agree, that sentence sounds like it was written by an islander's fan. No hockey expert (however defined) would say that DiPietro has "perfected" any aspect of the game. -Chiefhoser

Contents 1 Temper 2 No own goal 3 Hall of Famer? 4 Stats 5 The Goal 6 Maine Mariners?

[edit] Temper

Hextall was also known for being a little hot under the collar, not only in roughing it up with some opposing players but also for badgering officials and complaining about inference. I'm not really sure how to add this regarding NPOV, but I think you'll find this fairly well-documented elsewhere. Maybe noting his PIMs would be a place to start. Wencer 05:12, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No own goal

This is an ENCYCLOPEDIA... not every reader will know that hockey stat keeping is not the same as say football. A non fan may reasonably analogize. It is important to actually spell out that Hextall shot the puck directly into the net unimpeded, while Smith's goal was the act of the opposing team. That is niot vandaslism. that FACT that the scoring rules is silly is also a fact Bona Fides 14:35, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I think I fully explained the silly hockey scoring rule without being excessive. Football has an own goal so that a player's goal stats would not be inflated. It's like the error system of baseball scoring. Bona Fides 14:25, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

No, saying "this is a silly and stupid quirk of hockey statistics" is an opinion and subject to WP:POV. ccwaters 15:14, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

It is quirky if other sports don't do this... unless football is out of the pattern and say baseball assigns offensive credit to opponents error. The question should always be, what would a general non fan of this sport expect if you don't actually spell out the fact that we have a unique scoring rule. Bona Fides 16:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC) It would be stupid if the rule is so counter intuitive from analozing from otter sports that non fans would be prone to error. It is smart to choose obvious scoring systems. Bona Fides 16:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I just clicked on your POV link... I never thought that a scoring rule for stats would be controversial Bona Fides 16:03, 28 July 2006 (UTC) I don't think that it is.

Maybe the error is the assumption that if a "friendly" player is the last person to touch the ball/puck before it goes into the net then it is inherently that player's blame. Maybe it he was playing his role perfectly and it just bounced of him. The scoring concepts are just different. Hextall's article isn't the venue to compare or evaluate their merits. ccwaters 18:43, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hall of Famer?

Does Ron Hextall deserve to be in the Hall of Fame? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.242.12.49 (talk) 19:37, 8 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Stats

Can someone try to make a stats table? The stats now look unorganized and indefinitely hard to follow. I could if I have time, but it will take a while. Hasek is the best 16:41, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Acctually, I'll make a chart. Hasek is the best 17:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

There you go. I updated it a bit to fit into the hockey stat standard. --Djsasso 21:35, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Goal

This section talks more about Smith's goal than Hextall's. Can we get more information on his goal? It makes it sound like Hextall's goal was exactly the same as Smith's, but also says that it was different for some reason. I'm confused. Wrad (talk) 23:26, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I think that it should be mentionned that he actually scored 2 goals, Ron Hextall and Martin Brodeur are the only NHL goalies to be credited with two career goals (each scoring once in the regular season and once in the playoffs), though only Hextall has scored two goals by shooting the puck into an empty net. I also think the 2 first times a goalie scrored a goal in the NHL this way (by shooting it directly in the net) it was him too, but that im not sure.

[edit] Maine Mariners?

So, the Flyers added Hextall to their hall of fame tonight and comcast sportsnet ran a bunch of montages throughout the telecast. What stuck me a odd was one of the very first shots was a still of young Hextall clearly in a Maine Mariners jersey. The mariners were the Flyer affiliate until 1983 while Hextall was still in the major juniors. Could this be a training camp pic and if so why would they showcase it so prominently in this montage? ccwaters (talk) 02:25, 7 February 2008 (UTC)