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[edit] Nice start

Nice start! I don't know how to finish that introductory sentence. I have an urge to say in a second sentence:

Curia in medieval and later Latin usage means "court" in the sense of "royal court" rather than "court of law" (though those two meanings are related in history). The Roman Curia, then, is the Papal Court.

Is that too pedantic? --MichaelTinkler

Thanks. I just copied the list of institutions off the Vatican website :) No, that sentence sounds fine, so I added it for you. -- SJK
You're welcome - anyway, outlines are the secret heart of the world! --MichaelTinkler

[edit] Merge from Roman curia

There is another article called Roman curia. Obviously, the 2 articles should be merged. olivier 09:40 Nov 8, 2002 (UTC)

I moved the text in here. It still needs merging.

[edit] Renaming of template

The template featured on this page, Politics of the Vatican City, is to a major degree a misstatement of the jobs performed by the organizations to which it refers. Perhaps it would be better to rename the template something like "Roman Curia", which includes both the temporal and ecclesiastical responsibilities of the various organizations?

Lordthees 21:58, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I will look up the bull

I think it was Sixus V (or IV) who actually began the Curia with the bull Ineffablis Deo (I think). I will double check in the next day or so and correct the art if I was wrong.DaveTroy

Are you certain the Curia Romana wasn't started earlier? St. Francis mentions it in his Testamentum, which he wrote in the beginning of the 13th century.

[edit] Burial of Curial Cardinals

Where are Curial Cardinals buried? In their titular churches? --StanZegel (talk) 05:26, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Depends on the Cardinal. Some are buried in the basilicas in Rome, but not all of them.DaveTroy 20:46, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Curial Names

I changed a couple of the names to reflect their new designation in Pastor Bonus. For what ever reason, esp the Rota, seems to get its name changed on a regular basisDaveTroy 20:52, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Call for expansion into Medieval period

Clearly the Pope's administrative apparatus before 1588 should be treated somewhere in the encyclopedia. And since it's commonly called the papal curia, I assume that this is where the treatment belongs. Just for example: the article Pope John VIII is correct in asserting, "Among the reforms achieved during his pontificate was a notable administrative reorganisation of the papal curia," and in wikilinking to this page. But anyone reading this article would think that the Roman curia did not exist until 700 years after John VIII! Wareh 15:28, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Governorate of Vatican City

The picture for this article is a building not related to the Roman Curia? (Though it is a better picture than the one used for Vatican City#Administration) 86.9.167.192 (talk) 11:44, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Correct. See the Vatican City site for the State and its Governorate, and the Holy See site for the Roman Curia. Lima (talk) 12:38, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Part of series ..."

Perhaps someone familiar with the organization of Wikipedia articles would remedy the placing of Roman Curia in the series called "Politics and government of the Vatican City". The Roman Curia is an organ of the Holy See, not of Vatican City. See also Talk:Roman Curia#Renaming of template above. A series could be formed of the bodies that form the Roman Curia (Secretariat of State, Congregations etc.), perhaps within a larger series covering the Holy See, which includes the Pope. Others will know better than I do what is appropriate. Lima (talk) 05:15, 3 January 2008 (UTC)